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Announcements / Re: Arbusers 5000 members
« on: November 20, 2017, 01:11:01 PM »
Average online per day:   76.68

It's busier than you think, most people just don't post but they are here.  ;)

That figure shows the number of active people that login to the forum and not the average visitor per day.
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Announcements / Re: Arbusers 5000 members
« on: November 20, 2017, 12:20:33 PM »
And - I guess - maybe 10-15 of them active regularly  :P

You are wrong here.
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Announcements / Arbusers 5000 members
« on: November 20, 2017, 08:55:45 AM »
We met a new milestone today. 5000 members. We feel deeply honoured while we hope that all members will meet their expectations.
Thank you very much for your support and the contribution to the forum.
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Exchanges / Re: Introducing the 21Bet Exchange
« on: November 19, 2017, 05:09:57 PM »
I am somewhat confused. How is it that Arbusers know that I have an account with 21Bet if I did not go through them? Obviously, I would like to take advantage of the commission rebate offer. Any insights would be appreciated.

That was a newsletter going to all members of the forum and not specifically you.
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I had to modify a little this last post to protect the poster.
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Exchanges / Re: Introducing the 21Bet Exchange
« on: November 18, 2017, 09:14:40 AM »
a win of 500 euros?

The correct amount is 5000 Euros or currency equivalent.
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Newbie's questions / Re: New to arbing.
« on: November 17, 2017, 08:26:31 AM »
Why avoid 1XBet? Because of the withdrawal problems? And how do the bookies know i'm arbing? Isn't it just a simple bet? I really doubt that they check every single bet with all the other bookies...

Take ppintaluba's advise before throwing money to the fireplace. I would advise that you search in this forum and many of your questions will be answered.
Thank you.
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Exchanges / Re: Introducing the 21Bet Exchange
« on: November 16, 2017, 06:47:09 PM »
We hope to have more news and details by tomorrow. We are working on a formula that will reduce the possibilities for premium charges to be triggered. I don't want to get into details, because we are always trying to be ahead of the competition.
Yes we are talking about the vast majority and not all members. Some members are having more risky action than others so we are trying to include as many as we can. In the end, all players will be able to stay under the umbrella provided that they modify their action according to certain  guidelines.
I once again would like to stress that we are talking about a hybrid that will request an incubation period. There is no guarantee that this offer will be there for ever, but 21Bet is doing its best to make it work. 
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Exchanges / Re: Introducing the 21Bet Exchange
« on: November 16, 2017, 11:25:19 AM »
Heads up now.
A number of our members suggested that we should re-review the premium-charges thing. We all know that this is a pain in the @ss of every arber. There is an ongoing discussion between arbusers forum and 21Bet and we are now in position to say, that premium-charges will be lifted for the vast majority of our members.
We are based on long term observation of arbitrage action and we believe that under some specific circumstances we can have a happy formula for all.
This is hybrid and at the cutting edge of arbitrage action and will request a testing period first, since risks do exist for Bet21, who is currently ready to take them.
I would like to say thank you for the support that you show to this effort and the combining force that you give to the forum in order to negotiate and demand things. Much appreciated.
Stay tuned for more.
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Exchanges / Re: Introducing the 21Bet Exchange
« on: November 14, 2017, 07:31:22 PM »
You were limited by 21bet.com not the exchange itself, the exchange works normally now with no limitations, the problem is just that we were promised in the promotion 4 weeks with 2% commission which means that on mondays we receive the difference between 5% and 2% as rakeback and I normally received the rakeback for 2 weeks and today I asked them why I did not received the rakeback for the past week and got this message: We would like to inform you that your commision was  2% last week, therefore you aren't eligible for the rebate.
And this is for quite some money as I used them a lot so it does not seem really fair.

If you insist that you were overcharged, please send me a pm mentioning your account and will take care of it with the Bet21 manager.
Thank you.
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General talk about e-wallets / Re: E-wallets and CRS
« on: November 14, 2017, 07:27:32 PM »
These changes will come into effect on 13 January 2017 and will automatically apply to the services we provide to you.

This is an important observation that needs to be clarified.
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General talk about e-wallets / Re: E-wallets and CRS
« on: November 14, 2017, 07:23:24 PM »
The title of the e-mails sent by NT is:
Changes to the NETELLER Terms and Conditions (PSD2)
It all has to do with PSD2. To make a long story short PSD2 gives the right to payment companies to have access in the pull of clients of banks. From now on, we should all be very careful when we tick a box allowing 3rd parties to have access to our banking information. I made a good search and only one article in linkedin is linking PSD2 with CRS, and it appears like science fiction. However, science fiction in payments might not be in the far future.
I would suggest that we all calm down and keep these issues low in the agenda.
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Value betting / Re: Soft vs soft
« on: November 12, 2017, 05:10:46 PM »
After a 2nd thought, maybe the best way to act goes like this:
Place the maximum available bet with 2.2 odds. Then send them an e-mail or contact them via live chat and ask them if the bet stands. Notice that in this situation we have plenty of available time since sharps are not offering lines YET.
If the bet stands, you keep the desired amount as value bet and sell the rest in an exchange or cover it with another sharp.
Of course, you are under the risk of having your account severely limited and/or the bookmaker never replies to your question.
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Value betting / Re: Soft vs soft
« on: November 12, 2017, 04:48:13 PM »
Unless you have a deep knowledge of the market, you can never be sure where the value is judging by just 2 bookmakers.
If possible, you could see where the other softs are standing and then determine who is out of line. Notice that in such situation a non reliable bookmaker could declare the odds as pulp. In any case, certain asian bookmakers are posting lines very early when we talk about major markets.
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Newbie's questions / Re: ARBING WITH VPN
« on: November 09, 2017, 12:25:20 PM »
Hello everyone i am new to arbing and i have a question. Is it illegal to bet some bookmakers they are not allowed in your country(i am from greece) or they are blacklisted from gambling commision here with VPN ?
Thanks in advance!

Welcome to the forum likhaon,
Obviously it is illegal for a Greek citizen to bet with blacklisted bookmakers not allowed in Greece. That is why they are blacklisted. Thankfully, the Greek law has no universal power and bounds only Greeks. It is not bounding anyone else in the rest of the planet and that includes the blacklisted bookmakers offering their services to whoever they like.
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