Arbs with AH on knockout matches?

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Arbs with AH on knockout matches?
« on: June 01, 2013, 05:20:33 AM »

So last night Surebet Monitor detected two arbs that were rather weird for me. It would be great if the more experienced players can explain them to me. Whats even weirder for me they were SBO/Pinnacle and they stayed open for quite some time so i thought there is smth wrong.

The first one was 0.95% Bayern - VfB - AH 1 (0), X, 2 with respective bets 1.09 (SBO) - 7.25 (Pinn) - 16.20 (Pinn)

The thing is the first bet wasnt in the normal match betting menu. It was under different section saying "germany cup winner" with AH  1 (0) 1.09, AH 2 (0) 6.88 - SBOBET

The second one 3.08% Empoli - Livorno

Basicly a similar deal AH 1 (0) AH 2 (0) but again the SBO AH (0) results were both under a different section named ITALY SERIE B PLAYOFF WINNER. Does this still means the bet from SBO will be pushed if the 90mins end up with a draw?

Or what are the possible scenarios in both cases :)

Thanks in advance :)
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Re: Arbs with AH on knockout matches?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:44 AM »

SBO market includes possible extra-time and penalties shootout.
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Re: Arbs with AH on knockout matches?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 09:43:18 AM »

So nothing will happen with the SBO bets if the games end draw at the 90mark? Why do they bother calling it ah (0) then?
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Re: Arbs with AH on knockout matches?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 10:18:24 AM »

as you describe that AH1(0) and AH2(0) does mean you bet on the winner of the cup (even overtime or penalty would count)=  -so you can't mix to a regular AH1(0)-X-2 arb as x & 2 count 90min only, and that QUOTED AH from SBO is incl. OT & penalty (if there is draw after 90min!)
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Re: Arbs with AH on knockout matches?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 10:55:06 AM »

this market is called "to lift the trophy" at other bookies.
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Re: Arbs with AH on knockout matches?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 01:35:18 PM »

In theory you could have an arb where one of the outcomes includes overtime, as winning in regular time implies the overtime inc. bet also wins, but it seems very unlikely as the odds on the overtime inc. would be much shorter. 
Your example it's like a negative arb and a middle. If Bayern wins in overtime two of your bets would be winners and you would receive a very high return but in all other cases you would get back less than 100% of your investment.
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