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The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« on: March 28, 2014, 02:42:54 PM »

Hello again arbusers,I would like to share all together ur believes about the future of sport arbitrage.What do you believe will happen.I wrote an article about that in surebetmonitor and if you want we can discuss about that.I will copy/paste the 4 theories of sport arbitrage future.

1. Around 70% chances – Equilibrium theory

Extended limiting action will result in temporary arbitrage market crisis. Some of the bookmakers will not succeed in taking appropriate precautions against arbers/smart bettors and these will be acquired by stronger, more effective ones. More and more players will decide not to play arbitrage bets and move to other sectors/areas, preferably outside the gambling industry. This will result in decreased earnings for Arbitrage companies, and likely a few of them will stop functioning. Once it happens there will be general opinion that arbitrage-betting is no more profitable enough to start it. This will result in decreased requirement for traders who analyze accounts and limit them and will (on bookmakers side) also create space for introducing  bonus action to attract new players (market’s competition for new bettors). It might happen, that these bonuses will have anti-arbing terms and conditions (like e.g Tobet’s one, where you have to play at least 3 games at one coupon, so that it counts to the turnover, however this is unlikely in a long run, while it discourages usual players, being too complicated). Reduced potential of arbitrage community and profitability of an entire sector should also result in establishment of new bookmakers, who would need to attract players with solid bonuses. In time it might happen, that the biggest bookmakers will increase their limits on major leagues to attract “big players” and also distinguish themselves from small companies which will, again, promote arbitrage actions.

 
2. Around 20% chances Pinnacle – Asians – Betting Exchanges theory

Community-based services have been more and more important, to name just Twitter’s or Facebook’s influence. First substantial attempt to bring sports betting into community-based service is called Smarkets and we will observe their efforts with attention. Hopefully their success will encourage new developers to create similar services, which will, in time, take over some part of gambling market. Working as betting exchanges, these portals will not limit their players, creating nice opportunities for arbitrage players. On the other side Arbitrage community needs decent success of these services to ensure appropriate liquidity for surebetting. Utilizing them along with usual betting-exchanges like Betfair and Pinnacle Sports could be just enough to keep the cash flowing.

 
3. Around 5% chances – Pinnacle Sports – Pinnacle Sports theory

Success of Pinnacle Sports is certainly repeatable. There are already few good services that try to imitate Pinnacle Sports approach to sports-betting such as Marathon, 188Bet or SBO. They all, however, do lack few things. Either liquidity – which forces them to limit players to have markets balanced or policy – e.g. 188Bet, or SBO have way bigger margins than Pinnacle Sports, thus making them much worse. Without a doubt if this worked for Pinnacle, it could work for another company. Once it finally happens (because I do not expect Pinnacle Sports to change attitude to “limiting one”) we will have two major, non-limiting, low-juice separate sportsbetting services. Fingers crossed!

 
4. Around 5% chances – Arbitrage-betting twilight

While “soft” services continue their limiting actions, there is impossible to effectively utilize them in a long run. Smarkets and other betting exchanges do not share success of casual services. While many arbitrage players end their careers Pinnacle Sports loses huge part of their betting volume and earnings and decides to change the policy. Arbitrage area is over.


I am waiting for your thoughts and ideas about that!! (I want to thank the man that wrote that article really good job :) )
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 03:04:11 PM »

I've read some rubbish on arbusers and this is up there with the best/worst, why don't you just arb until
you can't arb any more, that what the rest of us plan on doing instead of posting all that gobbledigook,
just get on with your arbing, your post is complete nonsense, Equilibrium theory, wtf!!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2014, 03:06:47 PM »

I liked very much the article ,it's not rubbish.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 03:12:19 PM »

I liked very much the article ,it's not rubbish.

of course it's rubbish, you can theorise all you like and talk all that nonsense, it wont change the arbing future
one bit, of course things are tougher in arbing and nothing lasts forever and the soft bookies were always going
to get smarter eventually, that's it in a nutshell, the smarter arbers will continue to find innovative ways  of making
profit, most of us will keep doing what we do until it's not worth it any more, it's straightforward, nothing complicated,
70% chance of this,20% chance of that, 20% 10% what a load of bullshit.
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 03:16:05 PM »

I've read some rubbish on arbusers and this is up there with the best/worst, why don't you just arb until
you can't arb any more, that what the rest of us plan on doing instead of posting all that gobbledigook,
just get on with your arbing, your post is complete nonsense, Equilibrium theory, wtf!!!

yorkjoss this article is talk about the arbing future.Let me tell you something,I don't know if arbing is your hobby but if you are doing arbing for living then the future of this job is also the future of your life and if there is no future in arbitrage there is no future in your life.So i strongly believe this concerns all the arbusers that what to earn money until they close their eyes(including me).Thanks for your reply man.
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2014, 03:17:22 PM »

I've read some rubbish on arbusers and this is up there with the best/worst, why don't you just arb until
you can't arb any more, that what the rest of us plan on doing instead of posting all that gobbledigook,
just get on with your arbing, your post is complete nonsense, Equilibrium theory, wtf!!!


Because guys like this i never post on this forum!
Btw, nice article

thanks a lot man
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 03:17:58 PM »

makarid, you've been arbing 3 months, you're just a baby ;)
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 03:24:09 PM »

this was his post yesterday, the guy is a total novice, how can the same guy then make a post about the future of arbing,
he's just started, he is in no place to debate this, if this post had come from an experienced arber and poster then maybe
it could have been taken more seriously but a newbie already wanting to discuss the future and demise of arbing, give me a break

Hello fellow arbers!!
I am 3 months arber,i am newbie for some of you.I started manualy arbing with only bet365 and pinnacle and i in the first month i made 100% profit of my stake (600euro).The next 2 months i double my winnings with middle wins.And then the disaster came,i get limited by bet365.I took 5 of my friend's id's and i started again but in a week i get limited in 3 of them.So i starting to thing about another way of arbing.I heard something about parlay arbing and it caught my attention.I am searching for any detail of how to do it 2 weeks now but i found only what is this and not how to do it.Maybe some of you have some experience from that type of arbing,so i am asking you if someone can give me any clue,where to search, what to study or any information about the skill that i must train or the enducation i must have.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2014, 03:30:28 PM »


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Because guys like this i never post on this forum!
Btw, nice article
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you do post sometime Escobar, you made this post recently, where you said you'd never help newbies because this is a war,
it's every man for himself, well unlike you I do help newbies and it's not a war at all

That's exactly why i am i against helping newbies! :'(
This is a war and it's every man for him self!!!
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2014, 03:56:12 PM »

this was his post yesterday, the guy is a total novice, how can the same guy then make a post about the future of arbing,
he's just started, he is in no place to debate this, if this post had come from an experienced arber and poster then maybe
it could have been taken more seriously but a newbie already wanting to discuss the future and demise of arbing, give me a break

Hello fellow arbers!!
I am 3 months arber,i am newbie for some of you.I started manualy arbing with only bet365 and pinnacle and i in the first month i made 100% profit of my stake (600euro).The next 2 months i double my winnings with middle wins.And then the disaster came,i get limited by bet365.I took 5 of my friend's id's and i started again but in a week i get limited in 3 of them.So i starting to thing about another way of arbing.I heard something about parlay arbing and it caught my attention.I am searching for any detail of how to do it 2 weeks now but i found only what is this and not how to do it.Maybe some of you have some experience from that type of arbing,so i am asking you if someone can give me any clue,where to search, what to study or any information about the skill that i must train or the enducation i must have.

What is your problem man?If you don't like it go and see another post,there are many people here that they want to discuss about it.I think in this forum your title is newbie too.
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2014, 04:54:52 PM »

i don't think arbing will go away that easy. sure bookies are getting smarter and incorporating techniques never seen before. but bookies are a competition to one another too, it's like every other market in business. and they compete with each other with prices. and as long as that will be true, there will be arbs between books. and nobody can prevent you from placing two bets with two different bookies. maybe politics, with stupid regulations is our worst enemy down the line.
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Re: The future of the sport arbitrage,your ideas!
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2014, 06:20:25 PM »

I believe that nothing legal can be done to prevent the bookies not to limit us or closed our accounts.The smart bettors and arbers are really small community to respect ourselfs.I know it is unfair but this is the world we living,the bookies are huge,they have the money,they doing what ever they want.For example today i read the terms for bonus in meridianbet,that is LEGAL(the scam) in Greece.In one term they write that  they can take the bonus back even if you have end the rollover,without negotiation and without any REASON!!What the f****,without any reason. :o.
Anyway i believe that the soft bookies except 2-3 they will all close,because the dummy bettors will go only to platforms like bet365.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2014, 06:26:15 PM »

why the gamblings commissions DO NO THINGS about this?

why would they? what's in it for them?
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 08:17:14 PM »

ALL bookies must have"autorisation" from a gambling commission
the gambling is maiding from GOVERNEMENT
 so THE MUST RESPECT  the LAW before,so they must see if ALL terms and conditions ARE FAIR and respect all things I had sayed before
if OUT LAW  so NO LICENCE,the bookie cannot do any bizness without licence

where in the law does it say bookies can't limit?
why would the gambling commission care about you? you're not paying them.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 09:46:07 PM »

3. Around 5% chances – Pinnacle Sports – Pinnacle Sports theory

Success of Pinnacle Sports is certainly repeatable. There are already few good services that try to imitate Pinnacle Sports approach to sports-betting such as Marathon, 188Bet or SBO. They all, however, do lack few things. Either liquidity – which forces them to limit players to have markets balanced or policy – e.g. 188Bet, or SBO have way bigger margins than Pinnacle Sports, thus making them much worse. Without a doubt if this worked for Pinnacle, it could work for another company. Once it finally happens (because I do not expect Pinnacle Sports to change attitude to “limiting one”) we will have two major, non-limiting, low-juice separate sportsbetting services. Fingers crossed!


Let's see if time shows you are right or wrong, but I must disagree about this particular theory regarding Marathon. They are not imitating Pinnacle's strategy in any way.

Didn't you say you started arbing 3 months ago? How could you post an article about arbing on Surebetmonitor 2 years ago?
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