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« on: August 13, 2014, 07:33:21 AM »

I was taking a look at the list of bookmakers that BetLinker is covering and came up with a list of Russian bookmakers that I have limited information about.
OK, I m not talking about the well known Marathonbet and Fonbet. Here is the list:
Betcity
Bizonbet
Contorabet
Melbet
Sectorbet
Vbet
Rubet
Shansbet
Tennisi
Baltbet
Liga Stavok
Mir Stavok
Olimp
PariMatch
PlusMinus1

I see loads of arbs and some very good bonuses. I suppose that our Russian friends are taking their chances with these bookmakers and I wanted to ask what is the attitude of these bookmakers towards European bettors.
Eltrien, any, much welcomed.
Thank you, or should I say Spacibo?
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 07:46:26 AM »

I will give approximate marks and comments what I know about.

Betcity - limits 2/5, arbs 5/5, reliability 3/5
Bizonbet - limits 2/5, arbs 3/5, reliability 3/5
Contorabet - don't know, but it's OddsMatrix bookmaker
Melbet - reliability 0/5, other is unnecessary
Sectorbet - limits 2/5, arbs 3/5, reliability 1/5
Vbet - it's Armenian bookmaker. Limits 2/5, arbs 3/5, reliability 4/5
Rubet - don't know, but it's 10bet clone
Shansbet - reliability 0/5, other is unnecessary
Tennisi - limits 3/5, arbs 2/5, reliability 4/5, no English version
Baltbet - limits 3/5, arbs 3/5, reliability 3/5, no English version
Liga Stavok - limits 2/5, arbs 2/5, reliability 4/5, no English version
Mir Stavok  - reliability 0/5, other is unnecessary
Olimp  - It's Kazakhstan bookmaker. Reliability 0/5, other is unnecessary
PariMatch - It's Ukrainian bookmaker. Limits 2/5, arbs 3/5, reliability 4/5
PlusMinus1  - It's Belorussian bookmaker. Reliability 0/5, other is unnecessary
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 08:00:03 AM »

So Betcity, Vbet, Tennisi, Baltbet, Liga Vostok and PariMatch might worth a deeper look. Do they accept clients from the rest of the world, even if they dont have English verison?
I know how to read Real Madrid and Football in Russian.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 08:08:16 AM »

So Betcity, Vbet, Tennisi, Baltbet, Liga Vostok and PariMatch might worth a deeper look. Do they accept clients from the rest of the world, even if they dont have English verison?
I know how to read Real Madrid and Football in Russian.
BetCity, Vbet, PariMatch have English versions and as I know they accept other countries.
BaltBet: yes, and I wonder to know that he also now has English version;
Tennisi: yes;
Liga Stavok: no.

Pleasee see users' marks, supported currencies and ewallets directly in BetLinker application. Here is example:
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 08:17:04 AM »

What do you mean when you say limits 3/5? Will I be able to place a decent bet?
How fast do these 5 bookmakers of your short list limit players?
Some times I see unreal arbs with these bookmakers and I was wondering if we see 5 new Martahonbets.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 08:20:40 AM »

What do you mean when you say limits 3/5? Will I be able to place a decent bet?
How fast do these 5 bookmakers of your short list limit players?
Some times I see unreal arbs with these bookmakers and I was wondering if we see 5 new Martahonbets.
You can place a decent bet first time, maybe second time or even third time... All these bookmakers will limit you, but how quickly - it differs. 3/5 means that it's better than in Marathonbet. But number of surebets - it's often mich less than in Marathonbet.
However, my opinion is subjective. More objective you can see on previous screenshot.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 08:36:05 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 08:48:09 AM »

waste of time , Betcity fast limit to zero also many confiscations, Parimatch also fast limit gradually to 7 euro after 30 bets, vbet fast limit but you can continue placing bets 30-40 euro. I deposit/withdraw with skrill without a problem.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2014, 09:28:15 AM »

I found an older thread as well with information about Russian bookmakers
http://arbusers.com/index.php?topic=262.0
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2014, 10:58:47 AM »

PariMatch
Deposit only in $ with Skrill...
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2014, 11:13:40 AM »

I have big problems with autpay on VBET...when i finally recive money,they give me funny limit and rejected my bets...so i dont recomend this bookie


BIZONBET like i read is in same group with VBET,some cloane or something like that. And i have with this new situation....support on chat will not give you any informatiopn abauth autpay,wich is maximum 400€ on monts,they can give you only info abauth bets,when you ask abauth money,will say SORRY 100 time,buth thay will not give you no information,like cant and that you must wrote on mail,they say....buth on mails didnt answer all weak,untill i didnt wrote there,that i start to SHIT on Bizonbet on all possible sides,becouse i didnt recive money and no answer any more,untill i made withdraw....

I made withdraw at end of last monts and i recive yasterday 200e what was my deposit there....they take me AWAY my profit wich i made there....and ATTENTION what i recive at this last mail:

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You can write anything and anywhere you want. This only confirms the fact that you have not read the rules of the company before you started playing.

2.2.19 BizonBet reserves the right to block the player's account in case of suspicion of unfair play (arbitrage bets, exploitation of technical vulnerabilities, etc.) or if player is suspected to be using someone else's identity when opening an account. Account blocking period is usually from 14 to 30 days until the risk management department will examine the history of betting. After checking the gaming account can be unlocked or player will return all its deposits (excluding wins) with a total ban on further play.

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DONT SEND MONEY THERE!!!!! They can say that you made something wrong on ALL bets wich you win with this THIEVES RULES!!!!


More here from problems:
http://www.bookmakersforum.com/bookmakers/bizonbet-problems/463
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2014, 11:16:20 AM »

Parimatch with funny limits....after 5 bets some 10€....dont worth
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 01:26:32 PM »

Dont waste your time and money with Russian bookmakers:

http://bookmakersrating.ru/rejting-bukmekerov/vse-bukmekery/
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2014, 01:29:11 PM »

Dont waste your time and money with Russian bookmakers:

http://bookmakersrating.ru/rejting-bukmekerov/vse-bukmekery/


Why not to waste it? Some people made fortunes from Marathonbet.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2014, 01:33:00 PM »

From my experience as a non-Russian:
Betcity is similar to Marathonbet: Good odds, decent limits, tons of markets, software from 1995 and they limit fast. The software is not always working properly and the limits are not always there, they first adjust the limits, then the odds. Also they have a policy like you can't withdraw in less than 3 days from the deposit. No problems with withdrawals.
Parimatch only accepts USD. Limits are not higher than $500 from what i remember. They have many markets and they make a lot of arbs, the account probably lasts no more than a week. I had some delays here where they were stalling verification by citing some terms.
VbetBizonbet are part of the same group. They are best used for live arbing where they make loads of arbs, limits unfortunately are very low, in the €50-200 range but they can be repeated. If you hit them too hard they can apply a policy of limiting withdrawal per month which in my case was €400, so if you decide to play here, make sure you don't have a high balance.
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