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Sharp bookie first bet
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:24:25 PM »

I read everywhere, that it´s safer to place first bet at the soft bookie and than at the sharp bookie. But I´ve been thinking...in the cases where I´m 100% sure about the maximum stake allowed on the soft bookie, wouldn´t it be safer to place the bet first at the pinnacle/betfair etc. since they are more quick in changing the lines?
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 05:32:53 PM »

Their lines are more often correct, it is not like it will always go down because a soft book is arbable with it. They do change quite often when the arb pops up on some alert services but it is not like day drop by a lot it will still be an arb. Unlike if the soft book drops the odds it is usually a -arb right away.
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 06:05:04 PM »

I read everywhere, that it´s safer to place first bet at the soft bookie and than at the sharp bookie. But I´ve been thinking...in the cases where I´m 100% sure about the maximum stake allowed on the soft bookie, wouldn´t it be safer to place the bet first at the pinnacle/betfair etc. since they are more quick in changing the lines?

What if softbook changes odds after you placed your bet at sharp side?
You must pick value side first when arbing pregame.
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2014, 07:30:09 PM »

I don´t understand. You say that I must pick value side first. But isn´t value side in the softbook?
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2014, 05:27:08 AM »

I don´t understand. You say that I must pick value side first. But isn´t value side in the softbook?
Yes it is :) that is why you bet it first.
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 09:27:28 PM »

I read everywhere, that it´s safer to place first bet at the soft bookie and than at the sharp bookie. But I´ve been thinking...in the cases where I´m 100% sure about the maximum stake allowed on the soft bookie, wouldn´t it be safer to place the bet first at the pinnacle/betfair etc. since they are more quick in changing the lines?

What if softbook changes odds after you placed your bet at sharp side?
You must pick value side first when arbing pregame.

how we know which side is value on pregame abi?
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 03:03:05 PM »

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how we know which side is value on pregame abi?

Bumping this up please.
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 03:58:59 PM »

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how we know which side is value on pregame abi?

Bumping this up please.

Just have a look on market and examine which odd is considerably different than market's average , of course that's if arb involves only softs , if it involves sharps then value is on soft
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2014, 10:15:58 AM »

When you place a bet at Pinnacle you are first at the slip where you fill in your stake then when pressing place wager you will come to another screen, with an overlook of your bet and the option to hit confirm wager or cancel. Before i hit confrim can Pinnacle change the odd and tell me to start over or is this odd reserved for me for a limited time?
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Re: Sharp bookie first bet
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2014, 04:48:15 PM »

I put the shortest odds on first then the outsider - at least you have the full bet on the jolly which has more chance of winning (in theory) if things go tits up and odds change
and risking more on the same time :(
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