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« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2016, 09:15:38 PM »

Germany is not a gambling friendly country and bank accounts are not exactly the best options for a pro gambler.

I don't know much about Germanys relationship with online gaming right now but I don't understand how it would affect a person residing in a different country who has online accounts. I know a German Iban was mentioned earlier but that in itself does not explain to me why it would be rejected, especially when this new form of banking has a lot of potential to spread around Europe.
Also, whilst bank accounts might not be the best options as you stated, on the plus side they're a better method for funding in terms of longevity. I suppose the fact that I'm wanting to find more info on this shows how small I am compared to some in here who wouldn't dare use this function. Maybe I'm just naive or stupid and am in line for a shock but I can't see myself exactly where that would lie.
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« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2016, 10:51:11 PM »

Germany is not a gambling friendly country and bank accounts are not exactly the best options for a pro gambler.

I don't know much about Germanys relationship with online gaming right now but I don't understand how it would affect a person residing in a different country who has online accounts. I know a German Iban was mentioned earlier but that in itself does not explain to me why it would be rejected, especially when this new form of banking has a lot of potential to spread around Europe.
Also, whilst bank accounts might not be the best options as you stated, on the plus side they're a better method for funding in terms of longevity. I suppose the fact that I'm wanting to find more info on this shows how small I am compared to some in here who wouldn't dare use this function. Maybe I'm just naive or stupid and am in line for a shock but I can't see myself exactly where that would lie.

It does affect even a resident of a different country. For example cards issued by a German bank cannot be used for gambling. There could be other restrictions too. Perhaps the account could be used for wiring funds to agents.
An issue with ATM withdrawals could be the daily limits as they could be much lower than those of Skrill/NET.
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« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2016, 01:03:47 PM »

This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.
This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.
This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.

If you like to make frequent ATM withdraws , its a nice way to avoid skrill/neteller shit fees.
You get a REAL bank account with REAL iban and you got the security of a real bank.
You can also use transferwise service to convert pounds to euros or vice versa avoiding the shit rates given from banks or skrill/neteller. UK banks DO NOT provide full Euro accounts with ATM cards for small-medium customers which means that this is going to save your ass from many transaction fees.

You should understand that the next step from skrill/neteller is to start charging fees for depositing to bookies which is going to happen in the future(maybe near future) for sure. Kalixa which was an option for bwin group is going to close in May and players should start searching for alternatives to skrill/neteller...
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« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2016, 01:16:15 PM »

This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.
This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.
This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.

If you like to make frequent ATM withdraws , its a nice way to avoid skrill/neteller shit fees.
You get a REAL bank account with REAL iban and you got the security of a real bank.
You can also use transferwise service to convert pounds to euros or vice versa avoiding the shit rates given from banks or skrill/neteller. UK banks DO NOT provide full Euro accounts with ATM cards for small-medium customers which means that this is going to save your ass from many transaction fees.

You should understand that the next step from skrill/neteller is to start charging fees for depositing to bookies which is going to happen in the future(maybe near future) for sure. Kalixa which was an option for bwin group is going to close in May and players should start searching for alternatives to skrill/neteller...
fees aren't high at all. this is my today withdraw
Transaction amount   8,000.00 HRK
Effective FX rate   1 HRK = 0.13417903 EUR
Merchant - Card FX:   1 HRK = 0.13417903 EUR
Service fee   4.00 EUR
Credit/Debit   
1,077.43 EUR
I withdraw 8000 hrk today they charge 1077 eur. 4 eur will get back so it's 1073 eur. If I go to bank with 1073 eur and exchange it to hrk I would get 8015 hrk. That's just 2 eur more. So that's ok for me. don't know about what you are talking
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« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2016, 02:02:58 PM »

It does affect even a resident of a different country. For example cards issued by a German bank cannot be used for gambling. There could be other restrictions too. Perhaps the account could be used for wiring funds to agents.
An issue with ATM withdrawals could be the daily limits as they could be much lower than those of Skrill/NET.

I can confirm this after contacting them directly, apologies all.
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« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2016, 04:34:54 PM »

This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.
This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.
This is not a way to verify accounts with bookies.

If you like to make frequent ATM withdraws , its a nice way to avoid skrill/neteller shit fees.
You get a REAL bank account with REAL iban and you got the security of a real bank.
You can also use transferwise service to convert pounds to euros or vice versa avoiding the shit rates given from banks or skrill/neteller. UK banks DO NOT provide full Euro accounts with ATM cards for small-medium customers which means that this is going to save your ass from many transaction fees.

You should understand that the next step from skrill/neteller is to start charging fees for depositing to bookies which is going to happen in the future(maybe near future) for sure. Kalixa which was an option for bwin group is going to close in May and players should start searching for alternatives to skrill/neteller...
fees aren't high at all. this is my today withdraw
Transaction amount   8,000.00 HRK
Effective FX rate   1 HRK = 0.13417903 EUR
Merchant - Card FX:   1 HRK = 0.13417903 EUR
Service fee   4.00 EUR
Credit/Debit   
1,077.43 EUR
I withdraw 8000 hrk today they charge 1077 eur. 4 eur will get back so it's 1073 eur. If I go to bank with 1073 eur and exchange it to hrk I would get 8015 hrk. That's just 2 eur more. So that's ok for me. don't know about what you are talking

The problem is fully described in your last sentence. You don't know what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2016, 04:40:29 PM »



You should understand that the next step from skrill/neteller is to start charging fees for depositing to bookies which is going to happen in the future(maybe near future) for sure. Kalixa which was an option for bwin group is going to close in May and players should start searching for alternatives to skrill/neteller...

Not true, they already charge the bookies about 4%.  Why would they ever charge the end user?  The bookies absorb all the costs now.
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