# (negative)middles

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maletaja
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« on: August 13, 2016, 12:17:14 PM »

Is it possible to say how valuable are middles? Basketball,handball,football
for example 0% surebetting, but offers over 145.5 under 155.5. What are the odds that result "hits 155"
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antemartic
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 10:40:59 PM »

Is it possible to say how valuable are middles? Basketball,handball,football
for example 0% surebetting, but offers over 145.5 under 155.5. What are the odds that result "hits 155"
for example australia serbia have 1.95 for over 164.5 and 1.95 for under 164.5. from pinnacle odds it's easy calculate odd for exacly 164 points. add juice to over 163.5 and for under 165.5 and you get 1.9 and 2. if place midd for these you will get odd 38 for exacly 164 points
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barbero
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2016, 03:13:56 PM »

question here is how to calculate the juice, isn't it? are we sure it's always applied by the bookie proportionally for both legs? always?

Case 1: bookie estimates 50% chance of team A winning, 50% chance of team A not winning. fair odds 2 and 2. with 95% payout, bookie odds 1.9-1.9. ok

Case 2: bookie estimates 10% chance of team A winning, 90% chance of team A not winning. fair odds 10 and 1.111111. with 95% payout, what are bookie odds? can we even tell for sure from this info?
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 10:50:19 AM »

you can set a range. with only 5% juice info you can't tell which side they shift too. you can find a range though.
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maletaja
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 12:50:15 PM »

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Case 2: bookie estimates 10% chance of team A winning, 90% chance of team A not winning. fair odds 10 and 1.111111. with 95% payout, what are bookie odds? can we even tell for sure from this info?

i think margin could be tilted on side
usually when odds are 1.11 vs 10
bookies one side(heavy volume) could be 1.10 but another side is usually quite awful smth like 5-8 i think
smth like 1.01 they never offer 80-90, but smth shitty 20 or so
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barbero
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 04:23:47 PM »