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Live arbs. Can bookmakers understand live bet arbers?
« on: January 13, 2017, 01:48:16 AM »

Hello. I want to ask if can bookmakers find arbers who place live betting arbs.
Pregame Arbing for 8 monts..Result 25+ bookies limit my account.
Live bet Arbing for 6 months..Result just 1 book limit my account!!!
And this bookmaker understand me and limit my account when i was withdraw.
So i want to ask this:Can a arber stay under bookies radar if he place only live betting arbs? I read about this at a lot of sites who write about arbitrage. Is it true?
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2017, 12:21:51 PM »

no he doent. eventually you will get limited

try placing some live arbs between 365 and pinnacle and you will see the results.
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Re: Live arbs. Can bookmakers understand live bet arbers?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2017, 01:06:21 PM »

This is a myth. Just imagine if it was true, you could bet and win and the softbook would just keep paying and smile forever. Surely you feel something is off in this picture?

The book is interested in your FUTURE winning probabilities. When you placed enough bets that are statistically good indicators of your performance, and you are in profit, why should they not kick you (regardless of how you did it)?

OC pregame arbs may make the decision easier and faster. Also, the tolerance varies by book. (Because what they ultimately need to make sure is that the majority of their players lose. So the closer they are to this goal, the less interested they are in restrictions.)
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2017, 05:31:50 PM »

no he doent. eventually you will get limited

try placing some live arbs between 365 and pinnacle and you will see the results.
I am new at arbing just 1 year , but i am not so stupid to place my live arbs between Pinnacle and Bet365.
1) First of all i want to win every time.It is sure that odds will change at 10-15 seconds at live arbs between of them so i will go at 3% or 5% profit and i will take 10% lose or 100%. Big bookies, a lot of money and bets placed every second, so they dont need to give arbs for 30 seconds or 1 minute
2)  It is better to have 5 limit accounts at very soft bookies, but is no good to have 1 limit account at 365.So i place 365 arbs between 365-soft bookies
P.S Pending time of Pinnacle to accept the bet is not a good idea for live arbing at new arbers like me.I use Pinnacle only at half time or when i can see the game at video and stop the game and i am sure that it will not start again before 30 seconds.
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Re: Live arbs. Can bookmakers understand live bet arbers?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 05:47:57 PM »

This is a myth. Just imagine if it was true, you could bet and win and the softbook would just keep paying and smile forever. Surely you feel something is off in this picture?

The book is interested in your FUTURE winning probabilities. When you placed enough bets that are statistically good indicators of your performance, and you are in profit, why should they not kick you (regardless of how you did it)?

OC pregame arbs may make the decision easier and faster. Also, the tolerance varies by book. (Because what they ultimately need to make sure is that the majority of their players lose. So the closer they are to this goal, the less interested they are in restrictions.)
So if one day they want to check my account, they can see that my bet at live betting was arb or not? For axample. I place now 1 live arb between 365 and bwin. 2.05 under 365---2,5 over bwin.. One week later bet365 check my account. They can see that at 18.42 who i was place the bet  2.05 odd under 2,5, at this time Bwin was giving too 2,05 odd at over 2,5?
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 05:57:17 PM »

Actually you have a lot to learn...
For example....you place a bet. A normal 2,5% live arb on Bwin-Pinnacle or Bwin-365....The same day a Bwin trader is going to check your bets.If he see something suspicius (arb) he is going to flag your account. The same goes for Marathon-Bet365-1Xbet-Stoiximan-Betclic etc
EVERY bet you place is getting checked.
Not one week later....the same day! Some bookies in good faith are going to let you place some more bets to check your betting pattern.

Place a live arb between 365-Pinny your account will be limited after few minutes-maybe hours.But sure the same day.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 07:18:04 PM »

Actually you have a lot to learn...
For example....you place a bet. A normal 2,5% live arb on Bwin-Pinnacle or Bwin-365....The same day a Bwin trader is going to check your bets.If he see something suspicius (arb) he is going to flag your account. The same goes for Marathon-Bet365-1Xbet-Stoiximan-Betclic etc
EVERY bet you place is getting checked.
Not one week later....the same day! Some bookies in good faith are going to let you place some more bets to check your betting pattern.

Place a live arb between 365-Pinny your account will be limited after few minutes-maybe hours.But sure the same day.
This who you told me that if someone place a live arb between 365-Pinny he will be limited after a few minutes but sure in the same day, shows that you dont know nothing about bookmakers. If happen this, limit after first arb, then no one arber open account at bet365, then 365 will be the same like marathon or stanjames.
 I was register yesterday at this forum because i know that arbusers is the best forum in the world about arbitrage. I was reading at this forum some years ago. And i know that in this forum a lot of users have high experience at arbitrage and here i can speak with profesional arbers and i can learn more about arbitrage.
I am new at arbing, (14 months) but i have accounts at serius bookies (365 pinnacle betfair and others)  more than 13 years ago and i was placing other type of bets , no arbs..So all this years i read a lot of forums about betting, and i can understand if someone user knows about betting, and if someone user wants to show at the other users that he knows about betting.
So i think that  is a good idea to tell at other users this who you told me ¨Actually you have a lot to learn¨
When bet365 limit my account  i can give you my username and password and some screens of my Pinnacle account and you will see if my account get limit the same day.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 01:24:25 AM »

Ok.
I am heavy arbing since 2009. Many many accounts since then.
I am doing only live arbing...i dont care about pre match. Almost 1000 live arbs per week sometimes less depends on the markets avalaible,
If i am successfull or not only my Neteller account knows that and me.

Dont mix things. If you have a bet365 acc still active after 13 years it worths a lot of money in the arbing world.
If you have 13 years old accs you are going to make good money at the begging cause you are not flagged but eventually you are going to get limited even on those.
Lets make an experiment. Get a new id make a new acc with 365 and place tomorrow 2-3 goods arbs between 365 and Pinny and feel free to post the results.
I am not here to educate anyone. I am out of here.Have fun and i hope you make good money from arbing
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 09:44:28 AM »

Ok.
I am heavy arbing since 2009. Many many accounts since then.
I am doing only live arbing...i dont care about pre match. Almost 1000 live arbs per week sometimes less depends on the markets avalaible,
If i am successfull or not only my Neteller account knows that and me.

Dont mix things. If you have a bet365 acc still active after 13 years it worths a lot of money in the arbing world.
If you have 13 years old accs you are going to make good money at the begging cause you are not flagged but eventually you are going to get limited even on those.
Lets make an experiment. Get a new id make a new acc with 365 and place tomorrow 2-3 goods arbs between 365 and Pinny and feel free to post the results.
I am not here to educate anyone. I am out of here.Have fun and i hope you make good money from arbing

If you read again my message you will see that i told this" I am new at arbing, (14 months) but i have accounts at serius bookies"..I told accounts, i was not told account. So i have not the same account at bet365 13 years.
I am not so stupid to place the first day of 365 account arbs between 365-pinnacle.I wish you good arbing too
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2017, 11:46:13 AM »

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Get a new id make a new acc with 365 and place tomorrow 2-3 goods arbs between 365 and Pinny and feel free to post the results.

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If you read again my message you will see that i told this" I am new at arbing, (14 months) but i have accounts at serius bookies"..I told accounts, i was not told account. So i have not the same account at bet365 13 years.
I am not so stupid to place the first day of 365 account arbs between 365-pinnacle.I wish you good arbing too

Ok , dont bet 365 vs pinny.
I will tell you a better way how to burn the account within 10 minutes with a single bet.Open e NEW bet365 account and place these kind of bets :
-> Go and bet ice hockey period 3 double chance 12 
-> Go and bet volleyball +2.5 handikap

You will be limited within 10 minutes on your first bet..You wanna bet ?
Dont pretend to be too smart when you yourself claim to be pretty new on arbing world.

Like joker said , dont mix the things : it's one thing to have old 365 accounts and another thing new bet365 account.Eventually  you will burn the old 365 accounts , so treat them like a gold mine as long as you have them.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 01:21:00 PM »

btw what service u use for live bet?
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Re: Live arbs. Can bookmakers understand live bet arbers?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2017, 04:52:27 AM »

try placing some live arbs between 365 and pinnacle and you will see the results.


Are there lots of live arbs between bet365 and pinnacle?  Also are you sure players would get limited pretty quickly if they find these arbs on bet365 and bet it?


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