Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?

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Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« on: April 08, 2017, 12:39:53 PM »

Hi, I feel good to find you. My name is Manos and i am from Greece. I just started in the world of arbitage and now i am on learning period with my ''friend'' rebelbetting trial for 1 week.
Before i invest my money to the bet sites outside of my country if you know what i mean i want to try exclusive arb bets on bet365 and bwin with small stakes amount and of course to protect my account no extreme matches on the other side of the world and  of course no decadicals. Is this method safe?
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2017, 03:26:59 PM »

If you take odds higher than betfair they limit you, whether you bet £50 or £5000.   Hit them big for 2 or 3 bets is my advice!
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 05:00:35 PM »

2 or 3 in a day?
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2017, 08:35:43 AM »

If you take odds higher than betfair they limit you, whether you bet £50 or £5000.   Hit them big for 2 or 3 bets is my advice!

Are you so sure about this?I dont think  that you will be limited fast if you bet 100 to a premier league match even with higher odds than betfair.So i think  you can bet too often to big televised matches without problems( normal stakes)
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2017, 12:42:00 PM »

First big bet at Bwin that's an arb and you are limited.  Not sure what happens if you use a smaller amount but they'll probably detect it and limit you as well.
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2017, 01:50:54 PM »

I speak for bet365.At Bwin In some countries even depositig via skrill will limit your account wihtout even betting.
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2017, 02:22:57 PM »

Bwin in greece is a joke, be careful.
If you take the bonus and try to rollover with positive arbs you will be limited and they will confiscate your winnings.

My highest "arb" there was something like -0,5 or -1,0% at 50€ stakes. After that i saw limits 10€ at some markets. I am not sure if i am partly limited or these was general limits but it is a joke anyway
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2017, 12:44:37 AM »


Bwin in greece is a joke, be careful.


I took the bonus. The next day, after completing the roll over, the money was in my bank account.

However, if anybody face any sort of problem with any licenced bookie in Greece, do not hesitate to report them. You will get an official reply fairly soon.

info@gamingcommission.gov.gr

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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2017, 08:50:45 AM »

Gg

No problems with withdrawals for me either. More than 10 withdrawals completed in one day. I played only big leagues small bets. I saw some limits as i said, even in europa league max 100€ to win in 1x2 market.

The problem is that there are many reports from greeks for limiting after first bet and winnings confiscation, which makes the bookie behaviour really unstable
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2017, 06:52:07 PM »

Bet365 has recently become very strong and often limiting accounts. Bwin long time has a bad reputation.
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 11:00:15 AM »

I'm not sure if there is any value of placing bets at like under $100

To get any real value of $100 bets, this would have to happen
SIDE A = The odds would have to be higher than like $7.50
SIDE B = Other side was greater than +1.20.
So you would need to place $625 on the SIDE B, to make a profit of around $20

If you have 10x those bets at SIDE A, you might eventually get flagged.
It depends on alot of variables, but you might burn the bookie for a profit of $200
i.e (10 bets, with each a profit of $20 = $200)

So as mentioned, it probably would be better to wait for a big arb like %5 or something --> i.e $1.30
 
chuck in like $2000 on one side.
$11,500 on the other side and make a cool $1.5k.
Or more if you move the profit towards (the favourite)

If you can get away with 2 more bets, you've made around $4k, then you can bank it.
$4k is alot better than $200 profit.

If you can apply the same system against 10 known bookies that limit.
You've made a cool $40k
If someone said to you, that they'd give you $40k for free, I'm sure you would take it.

.... but it comes with risk as then you'd probably want to make sure, there aren't any cancelled bets, you bet the correct sides and there arent any hidden rules on your bet.  You'd also need $50k plus in the bank to make it worthwhile.
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Re: Are bet365 and bwin arb friendly?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 03:39:16 PM »

and to add to that.

-> You need to have a banking system ready and able to deposit that amount of money.

There are issues with the timing of the bets and sometimes its like 10 seconds between a valid bet and a really bad one.
When you are putting in that amount of money and if one side doesnt take your bet.
and then if the odds drop, then you might be losing some big cash...

Then this kind of fast moving timing forces you to move quickly, causing mistakes.
Bit of a catch 22.

So in order to get to that level, you need experience, but then you don't want too much experience to burn all your bookies.

I recommend, to try and burn a few bookies that are guaranteed to limit you, but pay out and also have max bets(even before your first bet)
i.e marathonbet.
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