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Skrill VIP Question
« on: October 17, 2017, 03:04:03 AM »

I try to get skrill vip silver so the fees for sending to another skrill user are minimal.  This requires sending 15000 euros every quarter.  For some its very easy and for others, it might be pretty hard.  But besides getting silver, is there really any benefit for the skrill vip?  I believe bronze is vip but the issue is there are huge fees for sending to another user right?  Thus thats why skrill is most important level to get?  Is skrill gold or platinum even worth much anymore?  I notice that skrill gold gets you 2 more currency accounts and platinum gets you 3 more.  But are there really people that need any?  I only use one currency.  Also it seems that the skrill wallet fx fees gets lower as you get platinum.  But if you aren't using more than 1 currency account or if don't convert the currency, then this is pointless right?


First off, if you make a deposit say 5k or more.  Then later withdraw it to skrill and then deposit it on another site.  Does skrill or that site might question you?  For example, i read a thread where someone mention if you deposit on a site many times, then withdraw not that long later, and keep doing it, its a form of ewallet abuse.  I know many skrill users get cashback on their deposits and doing this would be like abusing cashback etc.  But if you are depositing enough just to get the silver vip level, would there be any issues?  For example let say you deposit 3k into a site.  Then rollover it over.  Then deposit around that amount into another.  Then later on deposit around that amount back to the first site, would there be issues with this?  I read a thread on a forum where someones skrill account got frozen because they did something like deposit 20k or so but all in 1k deposit increments in a few sites and then skrill questioned them on this. 


So if you keep your deposits/withdraws a good time apart from each other, then there would be no issues?  The other thing is i know there are certain books that have a 1x deposit rollover on deposits.  Pinnacle however is 3x because people say its because people abused the ewallet bonuses with this.  So if a book allows you to withdraw after 1x rollover, do they have issues if you deposit into the account if you have enough funds to place your bets?  I will use an example.  Imagine you deposit 2k into that book.  Place an arb and that 2k is now 3500.  You want to place a 1k wager at the book and 1k at another book to do an arb.  Now you obviously have enough funds in 3500 to make that wager.  But if you deposit 1k from skrill into the site... then make that wager... well you are still clearing the rollover.  But would a book have an issue with you doing this as that would be an unnecessary deposit since you have sufficient funds remaining in your account?  Im guessing if you know you will be placing many arbs in the book, just make one big deposit?  But the issue is i rarely find any arbs.  So when i do, then i make a deposit because i don't want to make a big deposit and cannot find any arbs and thus can't withdraw my funds.


Also i assume if you make frequent deposit and withdraws on a site, you probably will get a message from the site on the issue?  The other thing is would skrill close your account or something like that?  Or the issue usually would arise from that site that you are making deposits/withdraws on.


And for the people that do the cashback abuse, how much money are those guys really making?  I mean are there people that are sending like 100k every month ?  That would probably be like 300-600 dollars in cashback a month?  However, wouldn't most people use neteller as oppose to skrill since the cashback for skrill is less?  Or am i incorrect here?  Because i believe for skrill, its 0.3 percent cashback and thats excluding many merchants?

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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2017, 06:41:19 AM »

Good question.
As i can see Bookie pays apr 2% to the e-wallet each deposit. So  bookie takes business risks. ewallet receives money from bookie, so why it have to complain?

Another thing is it is ok for bookie to deposit and withdraw frequently?If they dont ask you additional fee, then it should be ok. If u make some turnover like pinnacle, then there shouldnt be any problem at all

Remeber usual gambler is quite impulsive to make deposits withdrawals even same day. So i dont think prof gamblers attitude would be much diffrent from gambler
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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2017, 05:02:07 PM »

Hi there.  Yes obviously when i mention this... that bookie does not charge deposit/withdraw fee.  Because if they did, then what i mentioned would not make sense.  Pinnacle... isn't there an issue with this?  There is a 3x rollover.  But say you deposit 5k there and then wager 15k so you clear rollover.  Let say your balance after rolling it over is now 4500.  If you make another 5k deposit there, doesn't pinnacle have that unnecessary deposit rule?  And because of that it gets more confusing since its not only another 3 rollover but you have to lose the original 4500 first or something like that before they start counting it?  I know some sites won't mind if you deposit more if you have a balance there but what if you keep doing that?


Well if you deposit/withdraw same day many times, i think there would be an issue with this don't you think so?  The other thing that is confusing is do people mainly do this for vip level or cashback?  I assume it has to be cashback right?  However, isn't pinnacle in that skrill and neteller exclusion list where you don't get any cashback for deposits into pinnacle?  So what sites are people depositing a lot and getting cashback then is the real question.
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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2017, 06:55:44 PM »

If u talk about pinnacle there is not issue to discuss
U make any deposits you want. If u want to withdraw u have to make 3x rollover or pay 3% fee
Its transparent

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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2017, 07:25:38 PM »

The only problem is that some bookies limit at withdrawal.
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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2017, 11:02:25 PM »

Pinnacle won't have any issue with you depositing as many times as you want as much as you want, even if there's money in your account.

However, as you said, you will have to complete rollover conditions to be able to withdraw (you can still withdraw if you don't complete rollover but they will make you pay the ewallets fees, so this is not a viable option).

As for soft bookies, as far as I know they will all ask you to wager at least once before you withdraw. Like for example I have this issue with the brainless, stupid, stupid guys of bwin, where I can't withdraw my money because I didn't complete rollover, but I can't do it because I'm limited to 1€, so my money just sits there and as you all know talking to their customer service is like smashing your head into a wall. Nevermind.

You will only be able to withdraw withouht completing this rollover if they don't notice, which used to happen a lot in the past but I don't think it's too common nowadays.

I have a question for you: can you give more details about ewallets cashback? Like a list of merchants, conditions, where you heard about it, etc. I didn't know this was possible. Thanks.

Good luck!
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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 12:59:04 PM »

If you're trying to hit Silver VIP because of multicurrency account, maybe following solution would work. Deposit 15k in currency your skrill is (say USD) to forex dealer exchange to currency 2 (say EUR), ask Skrill for VIP upgrade and enabling EUR as your second account currency, then withdraw the EUR balance to your Skrill.

Disclaimer: Never tried that, but it should work. :)
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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 05:32:10 PM »

Pinnacle won't have any issue with you depositing as many times as you want as much as you want, even if there's money in your account.

However, as you said, you will have to complete rollover conditions to be able to withdraw (you can still withdraw if you don't complete rollover but they will make you pay the ewallets fees, so this is not a viable option).

As for soft bookies, as far as I know they will all ask you to wager at least once before you withdraw. Like for example I have this issue with the brainless, stupid, stupid guys of bwin, where I can't withdraw my money because I didn't complete rollover, but I can't do it because I'm limited to 1€, so my money just sits there and as you all know talking to their customer service is like smashing your head into a wall. Nevermind.

You will only be able to withdraw withouht completing this rollover if they don't notice, which used to happen a lot in the past but I don't think it's too common nowadays.

I have a question for you: can you give more details about ewallets cashback? Like a list of merchants, conditions, where you heard about it, etc. I didn't know this was possible. Thanks.

Good luck!

Go to their casino, and use this site https://yesnocasino.com/rtp-guides-return-player/  to find a slot machine with a 97+% or so payout to complete your rollover.  You shouldn't lose much.
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Re: Skrill VIP Question
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 08:09:32 PM »

Guys u are not using casinos. There are 1000+casinos out there. Additional they are more flexible withdrawals cases when sportbetting. Make some big deposit play some low RTR game and cashout.  There are some 0.1% house edge games!
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