Arbusers

You made 2 posts in English and 1 I believe in Italian in various threads. Use 1 thread for your case and no photos will be deleted.

arbusers, I apologize again if I made a post in Italian, I have more cases in which I have done live trading closing my positions in profit and betinasia has not paid me for the bets giving me losing bets lately I have had more cases this and the last one today , other and 1 day ago with a match in Poland in which I was not paid even though my position was closed in profit. I also find the operations made in my account shocking, there is no trace after they are given, loser, in fact I have all photographed the last ones, I find all this shady on Betinasia's part.

I would like to point out that these are not isolated cases, multiple cases have happened with both Orbitx and Sharp Exhange, always under Betinasia.

now I feel my money is in danger

I received a response regarding this unpaid bet and I understood how unfair Betinasia is and how persuasively as soon as possible I will no longer use its services as I keep my money. then the bet in question was not paid for the following reason because according to Betinasia the VAR was activated, now the fact is that I played at the available odds and I find this very serious that it is not good and already this is unfair after that I had banked the draw they gave the penalty about a minute after my bank, the penalty was scored and at the first available odds I cashed out by cashing in my position. so the match started 0-0 and ended 1-0. Now I find all this unfair, I don't understand what fault I have if I bank the bet and then go into an advantageous position, I underline all this at available odds. now there is another aspect that shows how disloyal Betinasia is, here we are, as they say, fraud towards the customer, if my bet was not valid according to them then I should have my bank money refunded instead I have a truly absurd loss, not even I can explain to me how they are trying to defraud me also because I can benefit from the loss of my bank and therefore as if I would not have made cashout on the loss list.I also find it really shady that in my betting list everything I say doesn't appear and since it wasn't the first time it happened I started documenting with photos while I was doing my trading operations.furthermore there is a disgusting aspect on their part when you want to assert your rights communication with them becomes complicated the replies to emails are no longer quick.in the past when I happened to read about situations like this I didn't believe it and I thought so much it doesn't happen to me, now I understand how it feels when you are scammed and you are on the right side.I just hope that someone after my testimony will carefully consider whether to put the money into Betinasia. this happened with both sharp exchange and orbitx I will stop using betinaisa these are problems in my opinion that are quite serious and shady on the part of betinaisa in which they make fun of the customer. the paradox, as mentioned, my bet according to them was not valid but it was given as a loser when the bank was in a draw and the match ended 1-0, truly ridiculous.

betto88t wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:17 am

I don't know if this is the right place but lately I've had some strange cases with Betinasia. Last 2 days ago I had this bet on Sharp that wasn't paid to me. I had placed a bank in which I made the cash out in my favor. when I checked the payment it was reported as lost I went to check the results and the goal was canceled but at the same time I had my bets matched. I don't understand why on other occasions my bets in the same circumstances remained valid in this case they were correct but here I had a match made with cashout. another similar and paradoxical circumstance was about 2 weeks ago I found myself banking a draw towards the end when they scored and I wanted to cashout in this case (it was on orbitx of betiassociazione) it wasn't available so I went to black ( mollybet) and the odds were available and open for over a minute I tried to hedge to collect my money I also placed odds lower than those available but I wasn't matched the markets but they were open after over a minute there was the the opposing team drew so I lost my bet. I asked Betinasia for clarification and they replied in a first version that the odds I played on black were too high. I pointed out that I played the available odds on black and even lower after several attempts. After pointing this out they replied that It's up to the book to accept the odds, so I wonder why collaborate with black books that don't accept bets at the odds they offer? I'm also disappointed with Betinasia by their way of managing things. These 2 situations, although different, are very strange.

it's very obvious what happened if you actually watch the game in YouTube from 2 hours 23 min on (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNvr-lvCpRM)
they scored a goal in the last minute, odds went to 1.01 gornik, draw 55..after one or two minutes of VAR review goal was taken back, so all bets taken between the goal and the VAR decision are VOID and it goes back to normal market before the goal (of course your lay the draw bet will stand as normal, so you lose because it's 0-0)..these are the rules from betfair, betinasia is 100% correct here und you unfortunately are wrong with complaining..sometimes it takes a little time for betfair to make the right decision if VAR ruled out the goal or the referee/linesman on the pitch (if there is no VAR involved the bets stand and you have every right to complain) but in the end they made the right decision, here in this case VAR ruled out the goal and your "green 16€" turns into "red -4€"..not sure what happened with Pohang Steelers, but I'm pretty sure it's the same incident..good luck

Christoph wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:56 am

betto88t wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:17 am

I don't know if this is the right place but lately I've had some strange cases with Betinasia. Last 2 days ago I had this bet on Sharp that wasn't paid to me. I had placed a bank in which I made the cash out in my favor. when I checked the payment it was reported as lost I went to check the results and the goal was canceled but at the same time I had my bets matched. I don't understand why on other occasions my bets in the same circumstances remained valid in this case they were correct but here I had a match made with cashout. another similar and paradoxical circumstance was about 2 weeks ago I found myself banking a draw towards the end when they scored and I wanted to cashout in this case (it was on orbitx of betiassociazione) it wasn't available so I went to black ( mollybet) and the odds were available and open for over a minute I tried to hedge to collect my money I also placed odds lower than those available but I wasn't matched the markets but they were open after over a minute there was the the opposing team drew so I lost my bet. I asked Betinasia for clarification and they replied in a first version that the odds I played on black were too high. I pointed out that I played the available odds on black and even lower after several attempts. After pointing this out they replied that It's up to the book to accept the odds, so I wonder why collaborate with black books that don't accept bets at the odds they offer? I'm also disappointed with Betinasia by their way of managing things. These 2 situations, although different, are very strange.

it's very obvious what happened if you actually watch the game in YouTube from 2 hours 23 min on (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNvr-lvCpRM)
they scored a goal in the last minute, odds went to 1.01 gornik, draw 55..after one or two minutes of VAR review goal was taken back, so all bets taken between the goal and the VAR decision are VOID and it goes back to normal market before the goal (of course your lay the draw bet will stand as normal, so you lose because it's 0-0)..these are the rules from betfair, betinasia is 100% correct here und you unfortunately are wrong with complaining..sometimes it takes a little time for betfair to make the right decision if VAR ruled out the goal or the referee/linesman on the pitch (if there is no VAR involved the bets stand and you have every right to complain) but in the end they made the right decision, here in this case VAR ruled out the goal and your "green 16€" turns into "red -4€"..not sure what happened with Pohang Steelers, but I'm pretty sure it's the same incident..good luck

Hi I just checked and in fact for the Gornik match in Poland actually and as you said since when I have my entry point to the market I don't see the live match I wait for the notifications of any goals and I do cashout so on this I no longer have nothing to say, however for the Pohang Steelers match the question is very different.my only fault in the phoang match was to bank the draw at 0-0 and after 30 or 50 seconds they gave the penalty, I have my entry points, what do I know if they give a penalty? but above all I have banked at available quotas, furthermore when there are vars or dangerous actions or expulsions the market is suspended so I find it strange that it is not going well that I have banked at AVAILABLE quotas very very strange.now the match since I had banked at 0-0 ended 1-0. Let's assume that my draw bet is not valid (and I find this unfair as I see it) how do I have a loss if my draw bet was not valid? I find all this highly incorrect and absurd. fortunately I have had similar cases in the past but not documented and I drastically lowered my bets and had to document my operations. summing up in the gornik match now I understand what the problem was but in this pohang match I don't find any problem just unfair behavior on the part of Betinasia as I also see it ethically but here the ethical aspect on their part counts for very little. In the summary my opinion it was the fault of banking and after about 1 minute they awarded a penalty..... I remain of the opinion that it was unfair behavior

What do you expect to happen when you bet after a goal is scored but then VAR cancels the goal?
Even if a bet is matched it will be cancelled if the goal will not stand. Maybe in the beginning of VAR you could make some profit but not now.

voodoo wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:34 am

What do you expect to happen when you bet after a goal is scored but then VAR cancels the goal?
Even if a bet is matched it will be cancelled if the goal will not stand. Maybe in the beginning of VAR you could make some profit but not now.

Maybe I don't know if you read about the Poland match since I didn't know it happened I have nothing more to say and I certainly shouldn't profit from something like that, if the goal was disallowed it seems fair to me, I find the second case of the Korea match unfair then you can also not believe what I say, I find a book that handles the second case like the one in Korea unfair as I see it

apologies if this has already been answered. I read some cases of delayed payments on skrill. from experience, how long will I have to wait for the payment of 10K eur? I note that I have not had any suspicious matches and that I have deposited a total of about 20K in the last year, so they are still in the plus with me.

Tim Protic wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:22 am

I read some cases of delayed payments on skrill. from experience,

What cases? Where do you read them?

arbusers wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:54 pm

What cases? Where do you read them?

Actually, i google it and that's how I found this forum. one of the posts is in this topic, but now i see that it from 4 years ago. In the meantime I've been paid so all good with betasia

Tim Protic wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:28 pm

arbusers wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:54 pm

What cases? Where do you read them?

Actually, i google it and that's how I found this forum. one of the posts is in this topic, but now i see that it from 4 years ago. In the meantime I've been paid so all good with betasia

Be more careful next time as someone who is not ignorant might believe you are having an agenda here.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:54 pm

Tim Protic wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:22 am

I read some cases of delayed payments on skrill. from experience,

What cases? Where do you read them?

in no case do I want to denigrate the BIA. But there are problems with withdrawal. I personally made a withdrawal on 16/9/24 and I still don't have the full amount. They only paid me part of it.

They explained to me that they have a lot of pressure these days and acted fairly. However, there is a considerable delay...

I'll do a little update, after my personal check of the 2 matches I understood why the Gornik match was rightly not paid, however for the Korea match the Phoang Steelers - Incheon Utd I can't find an anomaly, my only fault as mentioned is that of having The draw was 0-0 and after about a minute the penalty was awarded. after the penalty, as mentioned, I cashed out, I asked for detailed information for this match but obviously Betinasia doesn't respond. I think it's a kind of tactic in purposely lengthening the time. I know it seems like a risky word but I noticed this. To date I have nothing to say about the Gornik Zabrze - Radomiak Radom match, which is different for the Phoang Steelers - Incheon Utd match.I have been a customer of theirs for a few years and I have never noticed any problems, these anomalies have appeared since I have been trading live.communication with them has drastically changed only recently I have started to record my anomalies with them, the past ones obviously I cannot prove.today and it was my turn, one day it will probably be the turn of someone else who knows with higher figures......to date I think Betinasia is unfair both in the case of Korea and unfair in communication when one believes one has suffered an injustice

boro wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:05 am

in no case do I want to denigrate the BIA. But there are problems with withdrawal. I personally made a withdrawal on 16/9/24 and I still don't have the full amount. They only paid me part of it.

They explained to me that they have a lot of pressure these days and acted fairly. However, there is a considerable delay...

If referred by arbusers, send us with a pm the account email and we will sort everything out on Monday morning.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:04 am

boro wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:05 am

in no case do I want to denigrate the BIA. But there are problems with withdrawal. I personally made a withdrawal on 16/9/24 and I still don't have the full amount. They only paid me part of it.

They explained to me that they have a lot of pressure these days and acted fairly. However, there is a considerable delay...

If referred by arbusers, send us with a pm the account email and we will sort everything out on Monday morning.

thank you for your willingness. unfortunately, I don't have registration through arbusers. I assume that it cannot be done additionally...

Anyway, I believe that it will be resolved successfully. I still trust BIA