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Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:20 am

arbusers wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:09 am

What would you do? Satisfy 1 and have 100 moaning?

I am not trying to defend anyone here. I m just trying to highlight a reality.
How many people they satisfied increasing prices a while ago and decreasing (a lot) service quality? Cause from what I see there are LOADS people complaing here on daily basis and (maybe) just one pretty happy of what they do so considering members being huge part of their customers we can surely draw conclusion that they got barely few people satisfied and loads moaning. Who cares how many bookies they added recently WHEN most of them, most important ones doesnt work properly on daily basis. People pay for the service and got less reliable service than a year ago. Is this fine I guess?

And no, this is not "highlighting" its clearly defending them, lets call stuff what we suppose to do. You dont have to say "i defend them" to mean that.

How do you know that increasing price for 5 euro whould result having 1 happy customer and 100 moaning? Any researches done? If so, post here results. Cause its pure guessing which absolutely got nothing in common with reality, there is not even a slight chance that adding DECENT bookie which is missing and - even if - increasing price for 5 euro would result in 1 to 100 people on favour for moaning ones, its clearly showing the case in a way to DEFEND betburger. If no researches is done I will say that adding that bookie and increasing price for 5 euro would result 50 people happy and 3 moaning. Fine with that? You must be and cannot contradict cause I got absolutely no researches done as you and if you expect people to blindly trust such statement, you need to trust mine as well.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:35 am

I see no reason for these threads to be here. It is only advertising for arbusers.
These threads should be deleted from the forum.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:18 pm

Everybody has a right to express his\her own opinion so it's totally fine.
There were so many requests, as well as numerous replies, from our side referring to 18bet. We used to have this bookmaker in the past but at the moment we have no technical possibility to get it back, and that's not because we don't what to or consider this bookie to be less popular among arbers. That's because we cannot add it for technical reasons.
As for Karamba, right after some customers informed us that this and other bookies are no clones to 10bet from now on, we started to look for ways to introduce it on our platform. Currently, we're assessing our resources to make it happen in the short term.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:10 pm

AlexNotman1 wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:20 am
How many people they satisfied increasing prices a while ago and decreasing (a lot) service quality? Cause from what I see there are LOADS people complaing here on daily basis and (maybe) just one pretty happy of what they do so considering members being huge part of their customers we can surely draw conclusion that they got barely few people satisfied and loads moaning. Who cares how many bookies they added recently WHEN most of them, most important ones doesnt work properly on daily basis. People pay for the service and got less reliable service than a year ago. Is this fine I guess?
No, it is not fine at all.
balls of steele wrote: I see no reason for these threads to be here. It is only advertising for arbusers.
These threads should be deleted from the forum.
And that is the reason why this thread exists.
AlexNotman1 wrote: How do you know that increasing price for 5 euro whould result having 1 happy customer and 100 moaning? Any researches done? If so, post here results. Cause its pure guessing which absolutely got nothing in common with reality, there is not even a slight chance that adding DECENT bookie which is missing and - even if - increasing price for 5 euro would result in 1 to 100 people on favour for moaning ones, its clearly showing the case in a way to DEFEND betburger. If no researches is done I will say that adding that bookie and increasing price for 5 euro would result 50 people happy and 3 moaning. Fine with that? You must be and cannot contradict cause I got absolutely no researches done as you and if you expect people to blindly trust such statement, you need to trust mine as well.
I used the word IF in my post. You are destroying my words and you jump to arbitrary conclusions.
The word IF is introducing a conditional clause on the condition or supposition that, in the event that.

And yes there is a research done, one that goes on for thousands of years and it is called free market capitalism. Unless you live in North Korea, Belarus or Cuba, you can't realistically expect from anyone to work for... nothing.
A C rated developer costs 35$ per hour these days and an A rated one costs more than 100$ per hour.
If you want someone to cover any bookmaker, you must be ready to pay for the services. So if bookmaker A needs the 100 hours work, then you should expect a cost of at least 3500$ to be rolled over to customers.

And again, who is defending BetBurger?
This thread, is by far, the most negative SEO damage BetBurger could ever imagine. 1000s of complaints are here in our forum. Is there any other forum/website keeping 1000s of negative reviews for BetBurger? Can you pinpoint one?

To their honour, they picked up the challenge and they are here on a daily basis to reply, and swallow all this negative SEO arbusers forum is creating for them.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:02 pm

I ask another time, did you remove snai.it?
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:25 pm

Well from my point of view, when they had problems with pinnacle, I still payed for their subscription even when nothing worked for weeks, when 10bet odds did not work, I still payed the subscription. When they increased their price by 30% I also did not complain a bit, because I used them for years and 30€ a month is something I can live with. If they would increase their price to 200€ and add new bookmakers that we could use, I would also not complain one bit. Because I understand that developers cost money, but you can check how many new bookmakers that have any useful clones they added in the past year, and you will see that the number is not really high. they are scanning 79 different bookmakers and 264 clones, and there at least 20% are bookmakers and clones that either limit your account after 5 bets, are complicating your life when you try to withdrawal or they do not even bother with paying out your money. So why do not simply remove them and add something all of us can use. As there are a lot of bookmakers out there that are fair, do not limit fast and pay out your money normally. If we are talking about karamba and the clones they are one, 1bet was another but at least they told us now that they can not add them. I was never using more than 10% of the bookmakers they are offering, because I can not registered with them and I never complained about the price. But when I ask them for half a year if they can add something new and not just for me, for all the players as they can simply add some bookmaker where not just players from Spain, Austria or Itally can register but from all over the world, that is something that can not be done until they hear it here and other customers complain as well. So you can defend them if you like, but they have gotten much worse in my opinion in the past year, and if there was a service that was any good out there, they would lose 50% of their subscribers. All there is out there is rebelbetting that is also no better at having any new bookmakers, then betonvalue that is not in the same league anymore if you ask me, and then that is it. So we will see if betonvalue really does anything about this or are they just full of promises as they have been to me when I asked them about this in the past.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:12 pm

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I ask another time, did you remove snai.it?
For now, we do not scan snai.it in Prematch, but we still have it in Live mode. There are temporary scanning failures, but we're working on them and hope to stabilize the situation shortly.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:22 pm

kubasar wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:25 pm
Well from my point of view, when they had problems with pinnacle, I still payed for their subscription even when nothing worked for weeks, when 10bet odds did not work, I still payed the subscription. When they increased their price by 30% I also did not complain a bit, because I used them for years and 30€ a month is something I can live with. If they would increase their price to 200€ and add new bookmakers that we could use, I would also not complain one bit. Because I understand that developers cost money, but you can check how many new bookmakers that have any useful clones they added in the past year, and you will see that the number is not really high. they are scanning 79 different bookmakers and 264 clones, and there at least 20% are bookmakers and clones that either limit your account after 5 bets, are complicating your life when you try to withdrawal or they do not even bother with paying out your money. So why do not simply remove them and add something all of us can use. As there are a lot of bookmakers out there that are fair, do not limit fast and pay out your money normally. If we are talking about karamba and the clones they are one, 1bet was another but at least they told us now that they can not add them. I was never using more than 10% of the bookmakers they are offering, because I can not registered with them and I never complained about the price. But when I ask them for half a year if they can add something new and not just for me, for all the players as they can simply add some bookmaker where not just players from Spain, Austria or Itally can register but from all over the world, that is something that can not be done until they hear it here and other customers complain as well. So you can defend them if you like, but they have gotten much worse in my opinion in the past year, and if there was a service that was any good out there, they would lose 50% of their subscribers. All there is out there is rebelbetting that is also no better at having any new bookmakers, then betonvalue that is not in the same league anymore if you ask me, and then that is it. So we will see if betonvalue really does anything about this or are they just full of promises as they have been to me when I asked them about this in the past.
We understand how disappointed you may feel because of the current situation, but you can be sure that we are constantly trying to improve the quality of our service. We provide access to sports arbitrage between different bookmakers and analyze the bookies, that can be added in the future. Our service is scanning the vast majority of markets, cover all top bookmakers, and many local ones.
Also, we are sure that you are well aware that all bookmakers experience scanning issues from time to time.
Anyway, we are doing our best in order to provide our clients with a good quality service and fix the issues as quickly as it is possible.
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Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:01 pm

I've read that using the direct link to put the bet is not safe because the bookmakers can easily track that the player reaches the odds through a software ... I'm wondering if this is true for the BetBurger direct link, because as you all know during live arbs to reach quickly the odds is crucial to place the bet.
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Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:48 am

Claudio wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:01 pm
I've read that using the direct link to put the bet is not safe because the bookmakers can easily track that the player reaches the odds through a software ... I'm wondering if this is true for the BetBurger direct link, because as you all know during live arbs to reach quickly the odds is crucial to place the bet.
We cannot tell you for sure how bookmakers track gamblers, but almost all the bookies go against them and activate protection measures.
But in the case with tracing, no need to be worried as we use a different link, which cannot be tracked down.
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Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:23 am

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Hello Claudio, just a couple of words about it because this is not the right thread.
Bwin, personally get banned years ago. Sisal, the account is no more free, I mean bets go to traders to be
accepted or not.
Thanks for your answer, could you show me what is the right thread to go ahead with this topic ? Since I'm new here, I'd like discuss this kind of topics with you as with others arbuser.
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Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:30 pm

Yesterday i used Snai for live arbing and luckily I did only 1 day subscription. It's abosolutely useless, wrong lines and missing odds.
For example over 20.5 games @1,80 and the real odds is over 23.5 @1.80, same on handicap.

I don't know if it's always like that, but I wanted to try with snai because you told me you deleted from prematch but not for the live version.
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Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:12 pm

marco-vb wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:30 pm
Yesterday i used Snai for live arbing and luckily I did only 1 day subscription. It's abosolutely useless, wrong lines and missing odds.
For example over 20.5 games @1,80 and the real odds is over 23.5 @1.80, same on handicap.

I don't know if it's always like that, but I wanted to try with snai because you told me you deleted from prematch but not for the live version.
We totally understand your concern regarding this matter. There were temporary scanning failures of Snai in Live. This task is in progress. Our technical team is working on it and it’ll be fixed soon.
We greatly appreciate your patience.

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