## BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

No, you hvae not understood.

Please read again and fix the MB com rate of Betburger detector.

Betburger detector and calculator process MB odds in the same way with Betfair and Betdaq odds etc who take com only when bets win. The way to evaluate MB odds is different from them. The correct way is as follows. If odds is under 2.00, set the com rate for the odds % (If odds is 1.99, then 1.99%. If odds is 1.01, then 1.01%). If odds is over 2.00, set it for 2.00 %. If the odds is for soccer handicaps, set it for half % above (If Man C -1.5 odds is 1.50, then 0.75%. If Man U -1.5 odds is 2.50, then 1.00%.).  Thus we get the MB deducted odds and can compare MB odds with other exchanges and bookies odds equally, and can calculate correct ROI. However it as it is can't be used to calculate correct stake.

If only the com rate which Betburger detector uses for MB is set as above, Betburger will show correct ROI. That's good enough for now, even if your calculator bug is left.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

You may add new settings which allow users to set com rate of Betburger detector. It's a better solution if possible. Current com settings don't affect Betburger detector.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

w62upr wrote: No, you hvae not understood.

Please read again and fix the MB com rate of Betburger detector.

Betburger detector and calculator process MB odds in the same way with Betfair and Betdaq odds etc who take com only when bets win. The way to evaluate MB odds is different from them. The correct way is as follows. If odds is under 2.00, set the com rate for the odds % (If odds is 1.99, then 1.99%. If odds is 1.01, then 1.01%). If odds is over 2.00, set it for 2.00 %. If the odds is for soccer handicaps, set it for half % above (If Man C -1.5 odds is 1.50, then 0.75%. If Man U -1.5 odds is 2.50, then 1.00%.).  Thus we get the MB deducted odds and can compare MB odds with other exchanges and bookies odds equally, and can calculate correct ROI. However it as it is can't be used to calculate correct stake.

If only the com rate which Betburger detector uses for MB is set as above, Betburger will show correct ROI. That's good enough for now, even if your calculator bug is left.
Hello again @w62upr!
For calculation 1% of commissions on matchbook we calculated correctly (you have shown in the example) . Unfortunately, we cannot make a similar calculation system for calculating 0.5% of commission for handicaps in football at the moment.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

betburger wrote: Unfortunately, we cannot make a similar calculation system for calculating 0.5% of commission for handicaps in football at the moment.
Can't Betburger be programmed to do the condition analysis ((i)If odds is under 2.00 (ii)If odds is over 2.00) ? In that case, set the MB com rate for 2%. Regarding football handicaps, set it for 1%. I see currently Betburger sets them for 1% and 0.5% each. You should be able to double them each. If it has been set like this, Betburger will show correct ROI concerning over 2.00 odds. The condition analysis process is also required to calculate stake amount. So the bug of stake calculation also cannot be solved unless the condition analysis program is added as far as I know.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

w62upr wrote:
betburger wrote: Unfortunately, we cannot make a similar calculation system for calculating 0.5% of commission for handicaps in football at the moment.
Can't Betburger be programmed to do the condition analysis ((i)If odds is under 2.00 (ii)If odds is over 2.00) ? In that case, set the MB com rate for 2%. Regarding football handicaps, set it for 1%. I see currently Betburger sets them for 1% and 0.5% each. You should be able to double them each. If it has been set like this, Betburger will show correct ROI concerning over 2.00 odds. The condition analysis process is also required to calculate stake amount. So the bug of stake calculation also cannot be solved unless the condition analysis program is added as far as I know.
The Matchbook commission has been working fine for a long time (except the 0.5% promo). Check again, more carefully, before saying again that it doesn't work.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

cristi13 wrote: The Matchbook commission has been working fine for a long time (except the 0.5% promo). Check again, more carefully, before saying again that it doesn't work.
I'm sure it has been incorrect since Betburger birth. If you think it's correct, choose any MB arb, check its ROI, and try the arb with the calculator.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

Copy paste from betburger calculator:

Betfair TO(2.5) 2.00000 100.00       EUR    0.00
Bookie TU(2.5) 2.00000 100.00       EUR    0.00

Matchbook AH1(0) 2.00000 100       EUR    0.00
Bookmaker AH2(0) 2.00000 100       EUR    -1.00
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

Matchbook  W1    @2.00    com 1.00  100 EUR      -1.00
Bookmaker  W2  @2.00                    100 EUR          0

This is what Betburger calculator shows.

Matchbook  W1    @2.00    com 1.00  100 EUR      -1.00
Bookmaker  W2  @2.00                    100 EUR        -1.00

This is what a correct calculator should show.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

Have you even checked that? Because it shows exactly as in your second example.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

@cristi13

Please read my post #277,#279, and #282. I expect you to understand what the bugs are through them. That's it. I don't spend my time in teaching users now. I'm sorry for that.

@Betburger Team

You don't have to fix the bugs for now if you don't want to do. The reason is you have fixed the recent bug (handicaps com on sports other than football) which were annoying me. This is enough for me. My report is not a complaint, so no worries. This time it's a caution and an advice (solution) for you. It seems most users have not realized currently. However you should keep disbenefit in mind when some of them have noticed their loss.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

Hello cristi13,

I feel like you are misreading one thing. Please note that my report is not about Betfair etc as you see in my posts. It's all about Matchbook. The com rate and stake of Betfair etc must be no problem. The issue is Betburger processes them in the same way regardless of the way difference in taking com between them.
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

w62upr wrote: Matchbook  W1    @2.00    com 1.00  100 EUR      -1.00
Bookmaker  W2  @2.00                    100 EUR          0

This is what Betburger calculator shows.

Matchbook  W1    @2.00    com 1.00  100 EUR      -1.00
Bookmaker  W2  @2.00                    100 EUR        -1.00

This is what a correct calculator should show.
It's a screen from Betburger's calculator. It works the same as your second variant. Could you provide your screen?
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

Looks okay. I can't see anything questionable here though
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### Re: BetBurger.com - Your ideas, propositions and conserns!

Hey guys,

We've made some changes before last weekend. So the scanning speed and other parameters were improved.
Any concerns or issues?

P.S.: Details will be appreciated as usually.