Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:17 pm

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legio wrote: What the hell does line manipulation even mean? Did PS3838 payout the bets? Then payout OP and move on. Did they void or something else? Well, it's between the bookie and OP in that scenario.
Seems to me like they probably have financial reasons so they start making up bullshit excuses about "line manipulation", whatever that means.
I believe that what happened is that OP placed a large losing order, thus causing Pinnacle to move their price - and when they increased the maximum bet size - someone else hammered the price back down, taking advantage of the increased liquidity, thus creating a net loss for Pinnacle. While this was unintentional in this case, it must have hit a pattern of abuse which PIN is trying to protect themselves from.
Absolutely nothing wrong with this. Pinnacle pays out on such bets/manipulations just fine. Something else must have happened because if BIA is withholding funds because of this, then they must have gone broke.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:59 am

Still no news. 1 month have passed and nothing. Will post as quikcly as i get something.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:58 pm

Hello,


PS3838 and Betinasia have a very good relationship and anyone who is trying to abuse it will not be welcomed. We have a lot of winning customers solely winning PS3838 which is completely fine, we also have a lot of players who are losing which is also fine from our point of view.
Due to the nature of the forum, we can't be disclosing what is line manipulation and how it is being made, however with further checks, we can come to conclusion, therefore it takes a lot of time.
We will not be welcoming any manipulator and we will keep on closing down their accounts not to be reopened.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:32 am

Have you finished your "investigation" of more than 1 month? Also make clear to the other forum users you want to take the funds in my account and keep it for Betinasia(Steal).You are not waiting for a partner,1month now from my account closure and the funds (deposit) are still in Betinasia BookSheets.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:21 pm

almost 2 months account blocked and deposits not returned.At what time should we call out this broker fro stealing my funds ?Its not their funds,they need to return my deposit urgently. Arbusers administrator says these are person of godwill,.. They are stealing money without justification
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:35 pm

How come and in the forum it's almost always Bet in Asia who are reported for trying to steal money ??

What is going on with them ?
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:33 am

Again,
We (arbusers), are working on your case together with BetInAsia.

If you don’t like us to be in the middle of it, you can simply request that.

If you know of anyone else who could do a better job than arbusers, feel free to use it.

Once again. Your hard vocabulary is not helping your case.
cem wrote: How come and in the forum it's almost always Bet in Asia who are reported for trying to steal money ??
We believe that some fraudsters might use our forum’s intervention as an extra safety net for their actions. Even though we will help all legitimate players referred by arbusers, we will not save a tear for any fraudster.
A bigger number of complaints against a broker is a sign this broker is the most popular.
And of course, by this we do not imply that the OP is a fraudster.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:05 pm

Today they decide to "pay me" , I had 10k in the acc after making deposits of16-20K and losing. but they decide to void lot of my winnings bets so they only pay me 5.3k. So funny. They void winnings bets because "line manipulation" but they don´t void losing bets. This is completly a fraud. No explanations only " line manipulation" and I think that if I didn´t come to this forum they wouldn´t pay me even 5.3k
I guess I don´t have much options because I would go to an arbitrage or courts but with this offshore brokers I can´t. But at least I expect that future customers learn about my experience.
If this had happened in a regulated market this would be an easy case for me in courts.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:17 am

I believe at this point, everyone knows that Bet in Asia are stealing money from their customers. However I doubt arbusers can help anyone recover their funds.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:23 pm

Hi everyone. As it was mentioned before, the investigation was ongoing and it was concluded yesterday, so the account was permanently closed and settled then.

It should be clear that PS3838 was conducting a detailed investigation on how certain markets were manipulated, and according to their policy, they reserve the right to void any winning bets that are involved in this kind of activity. Following that conclusion, it was a question of the extent of damages caused by the manipulation.

BetInAsia as a broker would act as an intermediary in any dispute between the bettor and the bookie, but when it’s a clear case of abuse, there is no other possible outcome than how this case played out.

Simply, line manipulation is forbidden, and in general, any kind of abuse will lead to account closure.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:02 pm

BetInAsia wrote: Simply, line manipulation is forbidden, and in general, any kind of abuse will lead to account closure.

Could you define "line manipulation"?  Without some sort of a clear definition, this could mean virtually anything.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:03 pm

BetInAsia wrote: Hi everyone. As it was mentioned before, the investigation was ongoing and it was concluded yesterday, so the account was permanently closed and settled then.

It should be clear that PS3838 was conducting a detailed investigation on how certain markets were manipulated, and according to their policy, they reserve the right to void any winning bets that are involved in this kind of activity. Following that conclusion, it was a question of the extent of damages caused by the manipulation.

BetInAsia as a broker would act as an intermediary in any dispute between the bettor and the bookie, but when it’s a clear case of abuse, there is no other possible outcome than how this case played out.

Simply, line manipulation is forbidden, and in general, any kind of abuse will lead to account closure.
I had same problem with PS3838 but they couldnt prove nothing and pay me out in full,i believe we deserve some prooves here,its not  enough like in my case state that somebody had manipulated  markets and took somebody money without any evidence, why dont PS3838 show us what player did wrong or he should be paid in full !
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:18 pm

Hi there. We can only state that, as a broker, we act according to the decisions made by the bookmaker, in this case, PS3838. Also, having in mind that explaining these strategies in detail publically can lead to more abuse, we will refrain from taking this further.

It goes without saying that we are not going to make any private information public. Ultimately, a decision was made based on evidence, so everything was communicated to the player directly.

Thank you for understanding.
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:57 pm

kapetan1122 wrote: I had same problem with PS3838 but they couldnt prove nothing and pay me out in full,i believe we deserve some prooves here,its not  enough like in my case state that somebody had manipulated  markets and took somebody money without any evidence, why dont PS3838 show us what player did wrong or he should be paid in full !
No case is identical unless you know something that we, the rest, don't know.
If BIA is not allowed to describe the player's tactics based on data ground, perhaps the player could describe them?
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Re: Betinasia (BIA) Trying to Steal my money

Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:01 pm

barret19 wrote: I believe at this point, everyone knows that Bet in Asia are stealing money from their customers. However I doubt arbusers can help anyone recover their funds.
You are jumping into unfair conclusions. Have a look in our forum and you ll find out that millions of euros were returned to our referred members after our actions. Can you deny this?
In addition, the OP already received back the biggest part of his funds after our actions, those who were not disputed by the bookmaker. Can you deny this?
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