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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Fri May 06, 2016 1:58 pm

I think they can, imagine you being in their place, but we have a lot of options on how to change the ip, using vpn and staff like that
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Fri May 06, 2016 3:16 pm

daniel wrote: I think they can, imagine you being in their place, but we have a lot of options on how to change the ip, using vpn and staff like that
IP is not problem for me because when i will need 2nd account i will use new tablet or laptop and i will stop to use my house wi-fi because i will put  internet connection with card..So i just want to know if can bookies understand that i am in the same house
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Sat May 07, 2016 9:47 am

we already replied on this. the answer is no.
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:14 pm

Today i just googled https://mylocation.org/ for example and i was amazed it showed quite accurate  where i am. I use mobile phone(interet card)+create wifi+laptop. Im worried about it. How that page sees my location?
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:24 pm

It shows wrong location at me, at least it's several kilometres away from my real location.
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:23 pm

For me it's ~50km away.
I think it's the closest server of ISP or something. 
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:52 am

Unless you give permission from your browser, they see some ISP hub or something. Not accurate at all, sometimes it shows the other part of country, or even neighbour country some rare occasions.
Thats why neteller page asks for permission on every login.
Maybe you are next to a hub, and you think the location is accurate.

If you give permission it is exact.

Mobile apps ask for permission on installation so don't use them. Im not sure mobile browser pages.
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:12 pm

IP address depends on your ISP. Some will give you a fixed address, other will give you one inside a pool of many. In the second case, relating a variable IP to a precise location can be very tricky.
But depending on your device usage, you might give information to google, to the website you visit on your precise location (for instance buy anything in the internet and give your address...)
These little pieces of informations might stay in your device.

Some sneaky companies, will try to get as much information they can from your device. For instance if you pretend to be in Australia, but using swiss keyboard layout, swiss time... they will notice it.
Some VERY sneaky company will get many informations such as above but also MAC address (let's say it's the serial number of your network connector), probably any informations in cookies and maybe also your activity with other books. check iesnare on google.

My opinion is : if you are loosing, they will let you exist while gathering information.
But as soon as you start winning, they will check many informations, such as above, but also your sex, age,usual betting pattern for people like you (if you are a girl, too bad, if you are in australia and betting on european second category football : too strange, if you keep betting on any team without any preferred one : not good, if you put the same bet as a good tipster : not good...)
IP address is one element.
They have lot of money and resources to find if you are a good looser or potentially a dangerous winner. And too bad for us, they have the right to avoid winners :( And they will prefer to avoid taking any risk, so if you are a looser with a strange pattern, they can afford limiting you: better to be too safe ;)
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:52 am

I'm pretty sure they can only see your IP address.
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:14 am

The most important to them is your betting pattern, doesn't matter if you win or lose. You may be losing but they are aware that with your style sooner or later you will win. Turning to OP qustion, no they cant see you unless you accept just as Thordin mentioned.
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:03 pm

IP address is only tip of the iceberg. There are so many more different things to fingerprint browser and match your different accounts to each other. See, for example: browserleaks.com/, or
coveryourtracks.eff.org/
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:11 pm

Wolfie wrote: The most important to them is your betting pattern, doesn't matter if you win or lose. You may be losing but they are aware that with your style sooner or later you will win. Turning to OP qustion, no they cant see you unless you accept just as Thordin mentioned.
So we are all doomed  ;D
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Re: Can bookmakers see where exactly i am?

Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:14 pm

Devices IPs don't really matter since the location will be in close proximity. Bookmakers learn their lesson and nowadays have tools to detect the location and people to follow the betting patterns in your bets.

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