Arbusers

mrJustice wrote: You have to ask yourself this - are you ready to work long hours for about 1 year without getting paid anything. Because it will probably take you about 1 year to build decent alert service/odds comparison software. That's exactly how much time it took me to build my own custom alert service (well to be fair my project also included automated betting, so that also took some time). The commitment and cost is pretty big. You might think that there is no cost for you because you are the programmer and don't have to pay anyone but you have to think about opportunity cost. Say instead of working on my project full time I worked somewhere as programmer, making about $2000-$3000 per month. So the real cost for me was about $24000-$36000 to build it. Do you still want to build it now?  If the answer is yes the go for it 

mrJustice wrote: You have to ask yourself this - are you ready to work long hours for about 1 year without getting paid anything. Because it will probably take you about 1 year to build decent alert service/odds comparison software. That's exactly how much time it took me to build my own custom alert service (well to be fair my project also included automated betting, so that also took some time). The commitment and cost is pretty big. You might think that there is no cost for you because you are the programmer and don't have to pay anyone but you have to think about opportunity cost. Say instead of working on my project full time I worked somewhere as programmer, making about $2000-$3000 per month. So the real cost for me was about $24000-$36000 to build it. Do you still want to build it now?  If the answer is yes the go for it 

Camma23 wrote:

mrJustice wrote: You have to ask yourself this - are you ready to work long hours for about 1 year without getting paid anything. Because it will probably take you about 1 year to build decent alert service/odds comparison software. That's exactly how much time it took me to build my own custom alert service (well to be fair my project also included automated betting, so that also took some time). The commitment and cost is pretty big. You might think that there is no cost for you because you are the programmer and don't have to pay anyone but you have to think about opportunity cost. Say instead of working on my project full time I worked somewhere as programmer, making about $2000-$3000 per month. So the real cost for me was about $24000-$36000 to build it. Do you still want to build it now?  If the answer is yes the go for it 

Hi mr, what tool did you build for you ? what it does?

mrJustice wrote:

Camma23 wrote:

mrJustice wrote: You have to ask yourself this - are you ready to work long hours for about 1 year without getting paid anything. Because it will probably take you about 1 year to build decent alert service/odds comparison software. That's exactly how much time it took me to build my own custom alert service (well to be fair my project also included automated betting, so that also took some time). The commitment and cost is pretty big. You might think that there is no cost for you because you are the programmer and don't have to pay anyone but you have to think about opportunity cost. Say instead of working on my project full time I worked somewhere as programmer, making about $2000-$3000 per month. So the real cost for me was about $24000-$36000 to build it. Do you still want to build it now?  If the answer is yes the go for it 

Hi mr, what tool did you build for you ? what it does?

My project consists of 3 parts. First, my crawlers scan live events and compare soft bookie odds with Pinnacle odds to find value bets. Second, it sends value bets data to bots via API for automatic bets placement. Finally, once bot places bet it sends data to my website to save it for analytics and profitability tracking purposes.

I was fed up with low quality service from mainstream alert services and did not want to spend many hours in front of a screen placing bets manually so I decided to build my own tools. I do only inplay value betting because prematch gets me limited way too fast.

Camma23 wrote:

mrJustice wrote:

Camma23 wrote: Hi mr, what tool did you build for you ? what it does?

My project consists of 3 parts. First, my crawlers scan live events and compare soft bookie odds with Pinnacle odds to find value bets. Second, it sends value bets data to bots via API for automatic bets placement. Finally, once bot places bet it sends data to my website to save it for analytics and profitability tracking purposes.

I was fed up with low quality service from mainstream alert services and did not want to spend many hours in front of a screen placing bets manually so I decided to build my own tools. I do only inplay value betting because prematch gets me limited way too fast.

Very interesting. I’d be interested in your work, can you write me in pvt?

mrJustice wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:15 pm

If the question is referred to me then yes I still run bot projects

robert dreyfus wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:33 pm

This takes me back, to 2003 in fact, when people were trying to get arbs on at betfair before anyone else.
My friend, let me tell you one truth. I have been making over £100 per day, every day, since 2003 by placing arbs manually in UK markets. Sometimes I make over £1000 per day, but never less than £100. Know what market to look at, at when to look at it, and you'll never get banned.
Never get greedy, if you want to make more than £200-250k a year, then learn about candlesticks and hotkeys and go into day trading
I know BeautifulSoup, Requests and Selenium inside out, but can tell you that your antics will get shut down in one week no matter the precautions you take and no matter which sportsbooks and exchanges you target. Amazingly also, I regularly find arbs at 50% of back stake manually, sometimes over 100%!, but have never been able to find much more than 30% with an automated approach because the software simply cannot poll all the markets fast enough.
Be smart, do it manually, spend the time that you save not starting main.py in finding finding your own sweet spots.

robert dreyfus wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:33 pm

This takes me back, to 2003 in fact, when people were trying to get arbs on at betfair before anyone else.
My friend, let me tell you one truth. I have been making over £100 per day, every day, since 2003 by placing arbs manually in UK markets. Sometimes I make over £1000 per day, but never less than £100. Know what market to look at, at when to look at it, and you'll never get banned.
Never get greedy, if you want to make more than £200-250k a year, then learn about candlesticks and hotkeys and go into day trading
I know BeautifulSoup, Requests and Selenium inside out, but can tell you that your antics will get shut down in one week no matter the precautions you take and no matter which sportsbooks and exchanges you target. Amazingly also, I regularly find arbs at 50% of back stake manually, sometimes over 100%!, but have never been able to find much more than 30% with an automated approach because the software simply cannot poll all the markets fast enough.
Be smart, do it manually, spend the time that you save not starting main.py in finding finding your own sweet spots.