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Re: Finding Bets to lose on

Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:30 am

Very easy if matches are played at different times. Hedge the 1st one to be played and depending on result you might need or not need to hedge the 2nd one.
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Re: Finding Bets to lose on

Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:25 pm

Hedge the 1st one to be played and depending on result you might need or not need to hedge the 2nd one.

Hi can you provide more detail here.
You mean find two arbs between the bf and bookie.
If bookie wins, then try another arb.
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Re: Finding Bets to lose on

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:16 pm

Another good way is to find 2 arbs and they don't need to be at the 3-4 hour differnce, they just need to be between the same bookmaker.

MATCH 1) = Federer vs Nadal
MATCH 2) = Murray vs Djokovic

A) = Federer
B) = Murray
C) = Nadal
D) = Djokovic

Multi 1) A,B
Multi 2) A,D
Multi 3) C,D
Multi 4) B,C

Then its essentially a 4 way arb.
If you have 3 matches, then its a 8 way arb.

This is the best way I've found and you can easily use this technique to transfer money.
The bookmakers will be very happy with you and probably give you free pizzas and bonuses.
This is an alternative way than using ewallets.

Just ensure that if you do go with Tennis, that the same rule applies.
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Re: Finding Bets to lose on

Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:35 pm

showMeDaMoney wrote: Another good way is to find 2 arbs and they don't need to be at the 3-4 hour differnce, they just need to be between the same bookmaker.

MATCH 1) = Federer vs Nadal
MATCH 2) = Murray vs Djokovic

A) = Federer
B) = Murray
C) = Nadal
D) = Djokovic

Multi 1) A,B
Multi 2) A,D
Multi 3) C,D
Multi 4) B,C

Then its essentially a 4 way arb.
If you have 3 matches, then its a 8 way arb.

This is the best way I've found and you can easily use this technique to transfer money.
The bookmakers will be very happy with you and probably give you free pizzas and bonuses.
This is an alternative way than using ewallets.

Just ensure that if you do go with Tennis, that the same rule applies.
If the goal is to transfer money from one book to another, then read this post again:
barbero wrote: OP: forget about this idea. There's no mathematical foundation to justify any way to do something like this properly. Like Max pointed out if you could find losers, then you could as well find winners and make easy money. So actually by arbing-out you'll just be plain gambling and risking to end up with much more money in the book where you want to lose... probably because you're having a hard time to withdraw. My advice would be to fight for that withdrawal by all possible means.
Also for your example. How do you make that work?

MATCH 1) = Federer vs Nadal
        Bet365: Odds 2 vs Pinnacle odds 2

MATCH 2) = Murray vs Djokovic
        Bet365: Odds 2 vs Pinnacle odds 2

A) = Federer
B) = Murray
C) = Nadal
D) = Djokovic

Multi 1) A,B -> odds 4 on Bet365
Multi 2) A,D -> how would you make this bet?
Multi 3) C,D -> odds 4 on Pinnacle
Multi 4) B,C -> how would you make this bet?
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Re: Finding Bets to lose on

Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:49 am

you would use Pinnacle(or a soft bookie of your choosing that offers the best multi combination)

Multi 2) A,D -> how would you make this bet?
Multi 4) B,C -> how would you make this bet?

But you are right and I agree that you cannot guarantee a loss, there still is a hypothetical chance that two longshots will win.
Although statistically speaking if you use this method, the money will generally end up where you want it.
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Re: Finding Bets to lose on

Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:41 pm

showMeDaMoney wrote: you would use Pinnacle(or a soft bookie of your choosing that offers the best multi combination)

Multi 2) A,D -> how would you make this bet?
Multi 4) B,C -> how would you make this bet?
Ahh alright. So you would need to use 4 different bookmakers.
showMeDaMoney wrote: Although statistically speaking if you use this method, the money will generally end up where you want it.
No.

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