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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:10 pm

MrRed,
My question is did both of your agents signed this deal as we see it today in this link?

http://affiliate.gobetgo.com/en/Home/TermsAndConditions
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:33 pm

Big bonuses + arbing + affiliate abuse + dodgy_bookmaker + greed_on_both_sides = BIG PROBLEM
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:18 pm

@Arbusers 100% NOT those t&c are new
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:59 am

MrRed,
I m focusing on clauses 1.3, 3.3 (2nd paragraph), 3.10, 3.12.
Could you ask your agents if they signed these clauses?

1.3 Duplicate Accounts
Affiliate shall not open more than one Affiliate account without prior written consent from GoBetGo, affiliate shall not under the guise of other’s name try to control more than one affiliate account, GoBetGo has the right to sign the cooperation of the associated account to determine. In the event a violation, GoBetGo has the right to void all current and future play as well as eliminate any earned commissions applicable from such situation.

3.3 Minimum Referral Requirement

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The definition of an eligible active customer need refer to Clause 2.1 (register your customer) and who deposits and successfully wagers in GoBetGo Sportsbook or Casino, or other gaming product and makes at least 1 bet within the month.. In the event that we discover any affiliates, members and /or connected parties displaying any suspicious behavior or activities (eg. collusion, hedging or placing small bets among a small group of members) with the sole intention to receive/be eligible for commission, we reserve the rights to take any action including but not limited to cancelling of commission, termination of cooperation etc. GoBetGo will investigate and judge each case and appeal on its own merit.

3.10 Good Faith
You will not knowingly benefit from suspected or known traffic not generated in good faith whether it actually causes us damage or not. We reserve the right to retain all amounts otherwise due to you under this Agreement if we have reasonable reasons to believe that such traffic has been caused with your knowledge. Even if you have not knowingly generated such traffic, we reserve the right to withhold Commission regarding such traffic.
We reserve the right to withhold affiliate payments and/or suspend or close accounts where affiliated customers are found to be tampering with or abusing any GoBetGo offers or promotions whether with or without your knowledge. Such situations are including but not limited to different customers betting both sides of an event or market so as to limit risk and claim bonuses.

3.12 Attornment
You shall not open an affiliate account in the name of other persons’. We do not accept any deeds of opening or attorning an affiliate account for any third party without our consent.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:55 pm

Yorkjoss I believe you are not paying attention to this thread. It might be the holidays spirit that distracts your attention. My questions are strictly for the actions of the agent. As you see, these GBG's T&C are about the affiliate deal and not the registration agreement of the player. I m trying to determine whether the 4-5k commission paid to the agents are legit or not. After this, I will focus on the registration agreement of the player.
This case is big, so I cant make quick estimations. Yes, it is a pity that GBG is not here. Bad for them. They could help my effort and present the other side's opinion.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:23 pm

@arbusers
I asked them and both said, they don't remember that t&c from some months ago if there were those clause in or not. Only my current agent was saying, that it could be that there were those clauses, but was also saying, that all was clear with gobetgo. They knew, that my agent will bring only 1 player and,they knew that it will be a vip. My agent had no duplicate accounts (1.3). My agent had no minimi referral clause george from gbg knew that (3.3),the good faith 3.10. is bullshit because the deal was accepted before i start playing,even if it was in their former T&C and this is proven by the emails. 3.12 is also bullshit,because every agent from me had only 1 account. no dublicate or anything else. Gobetgo could check this if they want. All agents were verified with ids , utility bills and skrill screenshots.

I talked to my current agent and agent said, if they really think that there is fraud, you block the account BEFORE you pay commission or 170k to a player. You do all checks in the world! But blocking agent and player when the negative gets to big for gbg is a shame! 
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:50 pm

MrRed, please read what Yorkjoss just posted. If you tell me to stop examining your case I will gladly do so. As you see I make no profit from your case and believe me I have better things to do.
Thank you.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:37 pm

I m doing anything within my powers to examine this case. My effectiveness and reliabilty is questioned by Yorkjoss and probably other members that stay in silence. Others also suggested that I should quit from this case.
I will not go on with my efforts since I have only to lose here. Starting from now, I will not take any initiatives nor mediation between any member of the forum and a third party. This is also a profit of time and energy for me.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:48 pm

It is not the money of Yorkjoss at stake here that is why he feels free to say all the bullshit that he said. By criticizing arbusers he is playing a gobetgo game. Gobetgo has only to lose because they currently keep the 125k of MrRed. MrRed has only to win because he is losing everything.
This forum cant be dominated by the stupidity of people with no interest.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:02 pm

@arbusers. Do what you think you should do and not what any member of this forum says. There are more than 2000 members. You will always find someone who doesn't like what you do. In any case, just take into account what MrRed thinks.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:53 am

I do not understand this thread, isn't it crystal clear GBG are scammers? Nothing in the T&C is going to change that.


I'm pretty sure anyone offering help to this guy is doing so because...
MrRed wrote: If there is someone who can help me, to get this money, i offer this guy 25.000 Euro! after i get paid!
and the people that aren't giving help realise it's a lost cause because the lawyer MrRed is actually paying gave up also.
MrRed wrote: Lawyer gave up today...so this is now public!
If shit like this happened where I live, it would make the national news. GBG are scum and I hope MrRed somehow tracks them down and gets his money.
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:32 pm

A scam Bookmaker (gobetgo) thinks they were being scammed (affiliate abuse) and they got their information from Skrill/Moneybookers who scam their customers by divulging private transactions!
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:36 am

How convinient to uncover the ''scam'' when MrRed has 125k in his balance.
I am guessing there were no worries at first while he was losing!
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:25 am

some guy on sbr posted
they are done man, but George has much more problems with some bad guys he took their bets and now has to pay back, so they are after him. i hope everyone receive his payments but their bussiness is in red right now
My lawyer told me today what GBG is doing is a system and no chance to get them with legal methods.
So whoever is now hunting george....good luck;-)
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Re: GOBETGO - 125.000 Euro SCAM!

Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:24 pm

I think this is now the end of the story. GBG run away, stole a lot of money from thousands of customers and will get away with that. But to hide for rest of their lives...well not a good deal...

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