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Value betting talk / Re: The Arbusers Value Betting Index
« on: August 03, 2019, 09:55:18 AM »
That is not true I guess since all the bots I know dont place a bet if the odds are not the ones that " trigerred " the bet. On the other hand what I noticed is that the bots are going down this past two weeks where there are only "minor" events at tennis. While they did great on Roland Garos and Wimbledon. Maybe pinnacle odds are not so sharp on minor events, just my guess...

Value betting talk / Re: The Arbusers Value Betting Index
« on: August 01, 2019, 07:14:19 AM »
Heard some Live value betting projects are going down the drain , due to some major changes on a popular bookie
Yes live bots on that bookie are really going down. Fun fact I haven't seen any changes on that bookie we talk about. Just from previous Monday seems like it got a lot sharper than the Asians
What are the major changes you talking about?

I personally know his south Greece contact. That guy was all over fixed sports from tennis and soccer to even volleyball. He is well known as a match fixer but i guess everything has an end

Bookies discussion / Re: Does Sbobet Show American Odds?
« on: May 31, 2019, 09:36:36 PM »
I suppose yes. But since you found the time to post it here why dont you ask SBO instead?
 :o :o :o

Value betting talk / Re: The Arbusers Value Betting Index II
« on: May 16, 2019, 09:17:05 AM »
Once again arbusers, nice work. Very interesting data indeed.

Be carefull with sman winmasters goalbet and generally with all greek bookmakers they call you on the phone and want to identify the user (of course when you ask for withdraw..) also they ask videocall.I know one person who answer right all questions but the account locked and the company stole the money because in the questions he didnt answer fast.
From all the above only stoiximan is Greek. The rest are just operating in Greece too, with their Greek department probably the shittiest one around. Same thing applies to and which may be very reputable but their Greek section is plain garbage

VPN - VPS - VPC services / Re: VPN for UK bookmakers
« on: May 15, 2019, 09:32:27 AM »
Having used many of the VPN services none of them is working for me on bet365. I suggest you look for a good proxy service

Value betting talk / Re: BF exchange Vs Pinny as sharp
« on: May 06, 2019, 10:56:22 PM »
Do you really think that pinnacle live tennis odds are true odds? I dont think so anymore.

At least 365 thinks so. Because they limit much much faster if you bet against pinnacle live tennis.
I dont mind limiting accs as it is a Vbet bot so all accs in there SHOULD be limited beforehand. Also i know that pinny is sharper than B365 when it comes to live tennis the question is if it is better than BF. By the way filtering some markets/events works miracles in Value betting, one shouldnt just compare odds....

Links / Re: Inbetsment
« on: May 06, 2019, 10:49:35 PM »
You on the other hand found in this forum that does the exact same thing but also works with Bet365.

Arbing, matched betting and trading talk / Re: Potential Value
« on: May 02, 2019, 05:18:29 PM »
Sorry but I didn’t get the first part of your answer.
If the game is 1-1 at HT then i can lay 1-2 or cash out the first bet.I will of course lose but at least i’all get some of my stake back.
Is it really so difficult to happen?
The probability of 1-1 at HT based on calculator is 8%.
The game i was referring was Betis-Espanyol yesterday not Barcelona-Liverpool.
At Barcelona-Liverpool a good combination would be
0-2HT, 3-2FT at 201
Lay 0-2 HT at 40

So if i get the point... You back 0-2 HT and 3-2 full time at 201 lets say you back 10 euro so expexted profit is 2010-10=2000 euro if you win this bet
then Lay 0-2 HT at 40. lets say you Lay that for 10 euro profit at 40 odds you need to bet 10/40-10= 0.33 euro
If game is 0-2 HT you lose just 0.33 euro and wait for the FT 3-2 to win 2000 euro. Is that your thinking?
Well odds here are enormous so maybe it makes sence to do that and believe in a miracle since the only condition you could lose both is by HT result being 0-2 and FT result any other than 3-2 but yet i cannot find the hidden value. Maybe i get something wrong..

Value betting talk / Re: BF exchange Vs Pinny as sharp
« on: May 02, 2019, 03:49:13 PM »
On a liquid market Betfair exchange are literally the real line IMO.
That is my thought also. Yet i need to calculate what a liquid market is.... I mean on a challenger tennis event that might be at 10.000 pounds when on a grand slam that should be on 1.000.000 pounds
Also i believe BF is lacking a lot compared to Pinny when we need to take AH odds.
Any ideas on that?

Value betting talk / BF exchange Vs Pinny as sharp
« on: May 02, 2019, 12:55:02 PM »
Hello ,
I am at the stage of developing a value bet bot and have some questions for you. First of all i am only interested in tennis and soccer at the moment. Also since my bot will only be placing Vbets on live and not prematch please take that in mind. I was planning to use Pinnacle as my base book ( sharp ) and a High street bookie as soft. After i did some digging i found out that BF exchange provides A LOT more events on live tennis compared to pinnacle. Since now BF also provides api and is considered also sharp i could use BF instead of pinnacle.
So the 2 questions i have is

1. Is BF as sharp as pinnacle? Maybe better?
2. Whats the min liquidity i should take for comparing odds so i could be a bit safer that the odds are not either a pulp or manipulated/inacurate

Bookies discussion / Re: Bet365
« on: April 30, 2019, 12:22:14 PM »
Now the fun part is that him being a big time lawyer in the UK he is willing to sue B365 for racistic behaviour as he knows B365 is closing down Greek accs without any valid reasons.

That might be a hard task to achieve as Bet365 might say that any decision was taken on gambling behavior basis. I think the case is lost already, but keep us posted, please. It is very interesting.

I would be very amazed on how B365 would justify their decision on closing his account under gambling behavior basis. Maybe this is a longshot that i would agree but everyone around here knows that his statement is true. B365 is closing down Greek accounts without any valid reasons. And they are doing that like 100 times more often when compared with Uk accounts i.e
Of course that kind of a case would require evidence and i dont think he would be able to clarify his statements with such. On the other hand he is a big time lawyer for a VERY resputable law firm in the UK so he has all the means and time/money to do that....

Bookies discussion / Re: Bet365
« on: April 30, 2019, 11:40:12 AM »
A good friend of mine just phoned me today to tell me that his Bet365 account has been limited to 0. Fun fact is that he had his account opened last June and didnt use it till last Friday as he was abroad. Last Friday he deposited 500 euro in order to gamble as he came to Greece for Easter holidays. On Saturday night his account was left with less than 50 euro as he lost most of his bets. Then He won some bets on Monday and his account got to around 200 euro and voila!! Account limited to 0!!. He is not arbing/valuebetting just a casual losing punter. Now the fun part is that him being a big time lawyer in the UK he is willing to sue B365 for racistic behaviour as he knows B365 is closing down Greek accs without any valid reasons. I will keep the forum informed on how this will go.

Make a deposit using a different method ( credit card, another wallet, bank account etc ) and then withdraw using that same method

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