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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2014, 10:01:47 AM »

We're aware of the problems with Coral. They are trying hard to stop arbers on their site, so sometimes odds disappear for some time before coming back. We have a plan for how to work around this however.
Regarding Ladbrokes, we get their odds reliably, but not all markets. This is also because of technical and time reasons, you often need to prioritize what is most important. I promise they will be improved however.
Checking right now we have 186 arbs from Coral and 180 from Ladbrokes.

Right now our focus will be on improving the overall speed of odds gathering for ALL bookmakers. I hope you agree this will bring more arbs than spending time on individual bookmakers.


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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2014, 02:29:03 PM »

We're aware of the problems with Coral. They are trying hard to stop arbers on their site, so sometimes odds disappear for some time before coming back. We have a plan for how to work around this however.
Regarding Ladbrokes, we get their odds reliably, but not all markets. This is also because of technical and time reasons, you often need to prioritize what is most important. I promise they will be improved however.
Checking right now we have 186 arbs from Coral and 180 from Ladbrokes.

Right now our focus will be on improving the overall speed of odds gathering for ALL bookmakers. I hope you agree this will bring more arbs than spending time on individual bookmakers.

no I do not agree, your service for me is usleless, inconsistent and unreliable, right now spain are 1.75 v chile with ladbrokes
and 1.68 to lay on Betfair, don't worry this was found manually like all my other arbs but just to highlight that in a high proflie
match in 2 days time with a high profile bookmaker rebelbetting misses the arb as it does with most, stop talking the talk
and improve your service!!!
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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2014, 02:51:26 PM »

Thanks for a constructive idea for improvement. RebelBetting actually did find that arb (see attached screenshot). But judging from the number of exclamation marks, it took longer than you would want. If so, sorry about that. Our Ladbrokes odds might be a bit slow. This is what we will work on improving in the coming weeks.

(Betfair is never delayed more than 15 seconds. 1 second if you select the arb).
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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2014, 05:48:20 PM »

Thanks for a constructive idea for improvement. RebelBetting actually did find that arb (see attached screenshot). But judging from the number of exclamation marks, it took longer than you would want. If so, sorry about that. Our Ladbrokes odds might be a bit slow. This is what we will work on improving in the coming weeks.

(Betfair is never delayed more than 15 seconds. 1 second if you select the arb).

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   a service that find arbs some of the time is just not good enough, I was logged into your service for 1 hour, in that time the spain arb was not found, you can talk about seconds all you want, with rbetting bookmakers disappear endlessly for hours
at a time, some listed bookmakers just never appear, please don't talk to me about seconds
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« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2014, 06:01:10 PM »

I highly doubt we didn't find that particular arb for over an hour, but we'll monitor Ladbrokes closer.

Regarding seconds, I was talking about Betfair odds. Perhaps I was unclear. Cheers! :)
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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2014, 06:09:16 PM »

I highly doubt we didn't find that particular arb for over an hour, but we'll monitor Ladbrokes closer.

Regarding seconds, I was talking about Betfair odds. Perhaps I was unclear. Cheers! :)

your as clear as a bell!!!   it wasn't just the spain arb it was everything from ladbrokes, now after I highlight it ladbrokes is now
working, like coral which is not there on rbetting 90% of the time, yet beatbookies, oddstorm and betburger finds arbs with these bookmakers 100% of the time, rebelbetting is inconsistent, Ladbrokes is now there tomorrow it will disappear again
same with other bookmakers, this is a common problem I have found with rbetting, consistency is what is needed, an alert
service which is reliable, despite your boasts rbetting, your service is unreliable
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« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2014, 06:36:38 PM »

As I've said, we will focus on improving the odds gathering (both speed and reliability) for all bookmakers in the next major release.
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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2014, 09:37:10 AM »

As I've said, we will focus on improving the odds gathering (both speed and reliability) for all bookmakers in the next major release.

simon, i agree with the above poster rebelbetting development has been extremely slow this last 18 months. every service seems to go through the same cycle: you started out fresh, lots of new features all the time which makes the product promising, and then suddenly development seems to come to a complete halt while you're not even half way where you should be.
it's nice you have done a betfair update, but i agree what's lacking is a lot bigger than that. so i'm not that interested in what exactly you're improving next, i'm more curious about what's going on behind the screens. has running an arb service been less profitable then you would have hoped?  have the nr of people working on this decreased?  have you found ofher challenges?  just curious, as it's difficult for me to understand why there are quite a few services that invest a lot of time and effort into building a product, only to stop improving it a few years down the road.
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« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2014, 02:29:11 PM »

Hi Vinci. That is a valid question.

First off, our development speed has not decreased. It might seem that way because we have fewer major releases. And the reason for that is simple, maintenance.

The odds gathering and the autosurf is extremely vulnerable to any change of the bookmakers websites. It usually only takes a small modification on the bookmakers website to mess up our code so no odds are being gathered. It is a constant battle for us to keep up with the bookies website changes, especially now that we have 55 of them.

When we started we had 15 bookmakers, and could easily keep up with the changes they did on their sites and still have lots of time over for developing new stuff. Today we might have slightly less time for new feature development, but if you check our changelog you can see we're still very active. We consistently release around 18 new versions every year which I wouldn't call "extremely slow". :)

We're still as active as we were five years ago when we started. We actually have more developer resources now, since 3 years back we have two full-time developers (plus me occationally). And we have no plans of slowing down.

So what happens next and how can we improve? The next major release will change the way we gather odds completely, which will improve both speed and reliability. As an added bonus, We will also detect disappearing odds much quicker.

But we also rely on our customers telling us what they think is most important, so don't hesitate to let us know. Either here or send me an email at simon at rebelbetting.

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Simon
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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2014, 05:50:53 PM »

Bookmaking changes are always updating like every day. As long as users know that you're constantly developing new releases, personally, I couldn't complain anymore.
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2014, 08:26:01 AM »

Would be nice if you can increase "feed" speed. For example, I receive an arb alert in xxx software, I receive the same arb alert in rebelbetting 7-8 seconds after. Can you accelerate refresh/feed speed? Thanks.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 11:26:28 AM »

Our next major release will be focused on increasing speed. Right now there is a max delay of 60 seconds. We plan to have this down to 20 seconds, possible even faster. This means arbs will appear 40 seconds faster. Work as begun, but it's a big change so it will take a while.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2014, 01:41:09 PM »

Our next major release will be focused on increasing speed. Right now there is a max delay of 60 seconds. We plan to have this down to 20 seconds, possible even faster. This means arbs will appear 40 seconds faster. Work as begun, but it's a big change so it will take a while.

I will be very happy if you improve such things on your service. You have a software that its perfect and you loose customers because of delayed arbs...
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2014, 11:54:26 AM »

Our next major release will be focused on increasing speed. Right now there is a max delay of 60 seconds. We plan to have this down to 20 seconds, possible even faster. This means arbs will appear 40 seconds faster. Work as begun, but it's a big change so it will take a while.

I will be very happy if you improve such things on your service. You have a software that its perfect and you loose customers because of delayed arbs...

rebel betting, yesterday you were working fine and producing arbs form the likes of willhill, ladbrokes and coral amongst others, today with all the same bookmakers selected which includes Betfair at a low comm' rate I am being displayed
zero arbs, not even one, your inconsistency Rebelbetting is so so bad, an alert service should perform to the same level
every minute of every day, not, good today, not working tomorrow, as I said so so bad!!! I am seeing more arbs from
delayed free services , just not good enough!
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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2014, 08:59:46 AM »

Yorkjoss, when checking those 3 bookmakers I can see a dip in the number of odds which means something is wrong on the back end. Thanks for this error report, we will make sure to stabilize the odds gathering today and make sure this doesn't happen again.

If this happens again, email support at rebelbetting and we have a chance of fixing it much faster. I'm sure we can resolve this and make the service much more stable.
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