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I don't arb, I find arbs and then value bet the soft book. I find this provides a much better ROI, and means you get limited slower (mainly because you start betting smaller amounts).
Basically, I find arbs with any soft book (will hill, gamebookers, Vbet, etc) and sharp book (pinny, sbo, dafa, 188). I never bet an arb with just two soft books.
I also bet the 188bet offering when there is an arb (it only exists for a short time) between 188bet and pinny/sbo/dafa. Finally, I bet on dafabet if there is an arb between pinny/sbo and dafa).
So my hierarchy of sharps to softs goes like this:
Pinny/SBO, Dafa, 188bet, any other non-asian book.
My question for you guys is, who is sharper for football between pinny and sbo? Sure I don't find arbs there often, but if a line is 1.97/1.97 at pinny, and 2.03/1.95 at sbo, if pinny is sharp, the 2.03 is probably a value bet (on the basis that removing the vig from pinny provides "true" odds of 2.
So, who is sharper? Any thoughts?
Hierarchy of sharp books?
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Betfair
Pinn-Sbo-IBC all at the same level
188 If you consider this a sharp.
Pinn-Sbo-IBC all at the same level
188 If you consider this a sharp.
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Interesting that you put betfair above the others. Is that because it has the most volume? Or because the others follow betfair? Both?Arbusers wrote: Betfair
Pinn-Sbo-IBC all at the same level
188 If you consider this a sharp.
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In that scenario my suspicion is the unjuiced odds would normally be somewhere between the two.Carni wrote: .....if a line is 1.97/1.97 at pinny, and 2.03/1.95 at sbo, if pinny is sharp, the 2.03 is probably a value bet (on the basis that removing the vig from pinny provides "true" odds of 2.
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True, so maybe fair odds are 2.02, instead of 2.03 offered. I think there's usually still value at one of the books though.
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If you have a very small edge the swings will eventually eat your bankroll.Carni wrote: True, so maybe fair odds are 2.02, instead of 2.03 offered. I think there's usually still value at one of the books though.
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Obviously you do kelly bets to ensure that your bankroll grows at the maximum rate.qbet wrote:If you have a very small edge the swings will eventually eat your bankroll.Carni wrote: True, so maybe fair odds are 2.02, instead of 2.03 offered. I think there's usually still value at one of the books though.
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From your experience, what are the sharpest and softest books for tennis?
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Small sample size, but Betfair sportsbook (not the exchange) is soft, pinnacle is sharp. 10 bet is also soft.
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