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kvammern
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« on: April 10, 2016, 07:05:23 PM »

Hi,
I started arbing a short while back with a bit short of cash and now I'm kind of stuck in a deposit bonus at 10bet. Arbs seems to stacking my cash up at their site and I don't think I will be able to reach the required betting size in time. I do not want to lose my money over this stupidity, as I have understood you lose all the winnings and only left with initial deposit..

Also in the time I have been arbing I keep losing money on safe bookmakers like Pinnacle and Betfair and winning at like 10bet and Bet365. Winning repeatedly at those I suspect will end in limited account, already got that on Paddy and Bwin. So I'm doing something wrong or any good way to try to get it the other way around? Trying to get the winnings on the safe bookmakers?

Thanks in advance!
Sincerely,
Kvammern
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2016, 10:08:03 PM »

When you find a way to win at the bookmaker you want, let us know.  We'll all be filthy rich as we won't need to bother with the stupid arbitrage thing anymore.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 11:00:20 PM »

Say 10 hail Mary's before placing your bet at Bet365.

Or arb like a man and dont place the Pinnacle side, (Its only gonna lose anyway right?)
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 11:41:49 PM »

10bet is mentioned several times in regards to their limiting accounts and never ending roll over requirements.
http://arbusers.com/index.php/topic,3729.0.html
http://arbusers.com/index.php/topic,751.msg7015.html#msg7015
First advise would be to read the forum first.

I suggest you ask them how the roll over requirement would change if you switch to casino. Then see if all games are included in the roll over and start playing a game that you feel good at. I don't see any future in the betting section because they will limit your account to even lower levels so you never make it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2016, 08:04:36 AM »

I know I screwed up, and not asking for a magic fix. Just asking if there are any "good" ways to try and transfer/lose as much money as possible on 10bet. I gladly take a little loss. I'm probably not going to make the requirement. If they do not limit me I would, but I suspect they will when I get near and at the current rate I would end up with more money in my 10bet account and lose even more. I talked to support and clarified a few things about the rollover and I can't use casino to that purpose :/

If say I only play outsiders on 10bet, lets say a high minimum odds of 8. Would that be viable to "transfer" my funds out of 10bet?
Or simply just put money on a fixture bet and lay on it with betfair? This way I would have to make many bets and if just one of them hit at 10bet I would be back at square one.

If i dont do anything I will lose more then I deposited and a 15% loss on my total invested money into arbing. I have learned my lesson and will do more research next time, but if possible I will try to limit my losses for my current mistake. I have 19days left at the moment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2016, 09:35:29 AM »

There are no safe ways to transfer money in this situation. If I were you, I'd think about playing all-in in 10bet on low odds and laying it on Betfair - you'd be surprised how often so called favorite doesn't win.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2016, 11:00:43 AM »

Odds of 1.5 or so would do.  Big Uefa matches or premier league games.  Try it a few times with your entire balance and if you select the odds right you should lose all your 10bet money there after a game or 2-3 with only a few % loss.  Pick an away team for this.

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2016, 12:17:29 PM »

This is a difficult situation indeed. The rejection of the casino option from their side makes me think that they get even more sneaky than they are already. Very pity.
For now, the best solution as I see it is this:

There are no safe ways to transfer money in this situation. If I were you, I'd think about playing all-in in 10bet on low odds and laying it on Betfair - you'd be surprised how often so called favorite doesn't win.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2016, 12:47:52 PM »

Very sneaky indeed. The criteria of a maximum 100EUR to count towards the rollover per bet is ridiculous. Cant even just take few high bets to get rollover :P actually got to make many small bets and risk being limited and lose alot..

When you guys say bet all in on low odds, how low are we talking? As Alfa says, around 1.5? And that 1.5 bet on 10bet should be away? Greater chance for a underdog to win at home I suppose.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2016, 01:04:34 AM »

I gave the method a try (although witha few % loss) and lost on two matches, and the thirds would have gone the right way, something just got in the way and I lost track of time and didn't get to wager the money. Had my doubts at first, as you say you need some courage, with some bad luck you would end up with just stacking your money on the bookie you just tried to get out of.
Well, not sure if you are thinking about just a good way of transferring money out of a bookie or like me, had problems with rolleover.
I ended up with staking the required amount of bets left in one siting. I picked 8 matched and sat bets at odd/even and both team to score, total of 16 bets = 1600EUR on 10bet and now I'm just waiting for my confirmation that I have rolled over (hopefully they will accept). I ended up with around 6% loss, so if i get the bonus I will break even. As a plus I lost 6-700eur on 10bet in the process.

Edit: bonus confirmed :D
Thanks for the help guys
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2016, 11:26:25 AM »

usually for a inter-bookmaker transfer it's requiring a bigger amount, smth like 500 Euros, i do this via skrill and my broker
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