Arbusers

As we all know Singbet (aka Crown) voids many bets, especially those that were offered with better odds compared to the competition (pinnacle, sbo etc)
In many occasions Singbet odds are much better compared to the competition. Especially when we talk about X-2 outcomes and higher odds (3.7+). I really cant afford to lose these odds, especially when Pinnacle is a tick or more than a tick down.
I will quickly give a couple of examples from today's Champions League games. Feel free checking

Young Boys v Manchester United draw
Singbet 3.90
Pinnacle 3.83

Real Madrid v Roma draw (the biggest game of the day)
Singbet 6.30
Pinnacle 6.25

The examples are numerous and in some cases the differences are much bigger than these. To get these odds with no risk of void, I bet in Singbet with Betinasia through Skype.
Indeed there is a delay for accepting my bets but most of the times they do accept them with the odds that I mention and these bets are not voided for some months now. Since the Singbet's odds are so much higher than Pinnacle I never faced a situation when the odds changed dramatically against me. On top of that I get the 0.10% cash back from the arbusers referral.
The examples that I gave above are for Champions League games. The situation is changing when i want to bet in lower leagues where the limits are significantly lower. In this situation time plays a more important role and several time I noticed odds from Pinnacle and SBO going near to the odds that I request.

Singbet does not cancel winning bets only when it offers better odds than the competition. I have been playing with this company for about a year and it has canceled 60 thousand euros worth of winning bets, so I have a clear opinion.

singbet cancels bets when you have a high Roi over 8% . It can't stand you beating it. Today, singbet canceled 10 thousand euros worth of my winning bets in Premier League for no reason through sportmarket’s platform . My turnover in this company is about 680k in 10 months.Maybe for less turnover amount the percentage of Roi that is accepted for Singbet to be more than 8%.

Your observation is very much important and thank you for this. I will include it the Singbet review we have here: singbet-review-t7700/ so everyone knows what is happening exactly.

Meanwhile Yorgos, I am asking you, why do you keep using this bookmaker if you already know when they will void your winning bets? What is the formula you use that makes even this loss acceptable and you keep betting with them?

Thank you very much, I see value in your Singbet post.

My method is applied for over 10 years to live betting but has not the same profit for every bookmaker. There are bookmakers I can win (the most of the soft european bookies+ pinnacle, singbet) and there are others that I cant win . Sorry I cant tell you more than you expected to know on this matter.

The reason I play at singbet is that I can beat it as a company. however until now I have not made it clear if it is worth to continue playing in it to the extent that it cancels some of my winning bets. I spend a lot of hours and I don't know if it is worth playing in a company that essentially steals from me 60% of my total profit for no reason simply because I win over time. I will definitely limit my bets to this particular company and I will try to have access to other companies which, although they will limit my ability to place bets, they will not cancel my winning ones.

Yorgos1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:36 pm

Singbet does not cancel winning bets only when it offers better odds than the competition. I have been playing with this company for about a year and it has canceled 60 thousand euros worth of winning bets, so I have a clear opinion.

singbet cancels bets when you have a high Roi over 8% . It can't stand you beating it. Today, singbet canceled 10 thousand euros worth of my winning bets in Premier League for no reason through sportmarket’s platform . My turnover in this company is about 680k in 10 months.Maybe for less turnover amount the percentage of Roi that is accepted for Singbet to be more than 8%.

Do you think Singbet profiles each player and counts each player's ROI? I thought that if players place bets with Singbet via agents Singbet doesn't see which player placed the bet. I thought they see only the name of the agent the bet came from.

hardcore wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:49 am

Do you think Singbet profiles each player and counts each player's ROI? I thought that if players place bets with Singbet via agents Singbet doesn't see which player placed the bet. I thought they see only the name of the agent the bet came from.

As far as I know, Molly's accounts are alphanumeric, but are they personal or shared? Can the forum owner dig into this? I mean is it possible for these alphanumeric aliases to be attached to a personal Molly account and therefore each user to be restricted/profiled by a bookmaker in Molly, similar to a personal or direct brokerage account?
As I recall, a few years ago the Asian minotaurs somehow offered reduced odds for some "specific" accounts in several brokerages, but what exactly was the case? Were these "specific" accounts through Molly opened or through direct brokerage accounts?

arb12 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:30 pm

but are they personal or shared? Can the forum owner dig into this?

I doubt anyone would answer that, for a number of reasons.

hardcore wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:49 am

Yorgos1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:36 pm

Singbet does not cancel winning bets only when it offers better odds than the competition. I have been playing with this company for about a year and it has canceled 60 thousand euros worth of winning bets, so I have a clear opinion.

singbet cancels bets when you have a high Roi over 8% . It can't stand you beating it. Today, singbet canceled 10 thousand euros worth of my winning bets in Premier League for no reason through sportmarket’s platform . My turnover in this company is about 680k in 10 months.Maybe for less turnover amount the percentage of Roi that is accepted for Singbet to be more than 8%.

Do you think Singbet profiles each player and counts each player's ROI? I thought that if players place bets with Singbet via agents Singbet doesn't see which player placed the bet. I thought they see only the name of the agent the bet came from.

My story with singbet ended 3 days ago when they canceled another winning bet worth 5k euros on the Bochum match. I've decided I can't take any more damage with them and I'm asking sportmarket to completely remove my options so I won't be tempted.

Maybe my comment about 8% doesn't apply after all because on my last bet that was canceled I wouldn't have exceeded 7% ROI since immediately before, I had lost 2k on the Verona match and I thought that the Bochum won bet wouldn't cancel.


From my experience, for those of you who are still dealing with them, let me tell you that as many times as I placed a repeat bet on live and all 2 bets or all 3 won, only 1 paid normally and the rest were cancelled. Of course in case my stakes were lost . singbet never cancelled them

singbet is an unlicensed company and we only choose it at our own risk especially in sportmarket. This is also the reason why I am not proceeding with any complaint.

It looks like Singbet mostly voids live bets and the percentage of voided pre-match bets is much less than in-play bets. Or am I wrong?

hardcore wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:13 am

It looks like Singbet mostly voids live bets and the percentage of voided pre-match bets is much less than in-play bets. Or am I wrong?

don't see any difference between live and pre, usually it happens on dropping odds but as others user reported it happened also with big leagues where dropping odd is not an issue. So it looks to me very random