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Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« on: December 19, 2018, 12:26:53 PM »

I opened account with Rebelbet.com and they offered me bet365-copy accounts in July 25th.
I deposited to two accounts 2500 euro each. So total deposit of 5000 Eur.

When I wanted to cashout August 22, I asked for cashout for 15k Euro (total balance winning+deposit is 31766 EUR (15505 in one account and 16261 in second account))

Nothing received and after numerous emails and reminders they answered me that they are waiting for the bookmaker to settle them first so they can pay me and kindly asked me to wait a bit.

I waited patiently for this knowing in the end it's their own responsibility to cover me and not some third party.
Texts on their website says as well:
"Protected Transactions Your transactions are secure."


"We offer Betting Accounts on pretty much all major high class bookmakers, VIP Accounts, Agent accounts, flexible Payment options, we pay FAST and SECURE."

https://rebelbet.com/faq

"How can I be sure that my funds are safe with you?
Rebel Bet is licensed and regulated b. The gaming license requires us to hold sufficient funds in our bank accounts to honour all customer winnings."

So I have been waiting since then for my withdrawal, I had over 30 emails back and forth with them where they ask me to be more patient in receiving my money to bear with them and I will get them shortly but nothing received and lately also my email has not been responded to as well.
I can not wait more than 3-4 months and decided now to go official about this non trustable agent and how they promises one thing but don't deliver. I know I should've went official earlier but some part of me hoped to receive anything.


So if you have money with this rebelbet agent BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE THEY DO NOT PAY!

What can I do to receive my money from these people?
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2018, 04:02:06 PM »

i wish i could, but i'm not sure what to say or how to help you. what made you trust them?  absolutely everything in that crappy website of theirs looks suspicious, including the bad english, the too good to be true offer of books, the seemingly fake address in london and the fake betting license.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 11:54:28 AM »

After a quick look in their website I noticed that they offer 1xbet accounts as well as bet365 accounts as you mentioned.
This is against common mathematics. No agent would survive from offering these odds unless they are looking for dump money or there is something else hidden.
Axel84 you have some responsibility on your back as you didn't do a proper due diligence to them.
I was wondering who is regulating them, if there is someone regulating them.
There is a betting license and a blurred logo under it, so I m trying to figure out if there is any regulator or not.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 11:55:40 AM »

that bet365 clone looks so attractive...hope you get paid but i doubt mate.

that agent was always suspicious



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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 02:28:31 PM »

I think your money is long gone sadly.  Always stick to reputable sites and agents in future.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 09:43:54 PM »

There is a betting license and a blurred logo under it, so I m trying to figure out if there is any regulator or not.

the logo is a copy paste from same random organization from costa rica (i forgot what it was, but reverse image search take 10 sec). the betting license nr containts the letters "CR" which seems to suggest a Costa Rica license.  there is no such thing as a Costa Rica license as there is no Costa Rica regulator.  the license is fake.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2018, 09:58:32 PM »

Here is our full email conversation. You can see in beginning who is the sender of each mail.
They kept promising me to be patient and patient but nothing received.
They still have chance to settle me and I will forget about them. But as long as they wont settle me I will continue to search for them.

I should've figured out something was fishy about them when they wanted to offer bet365 clone with 5000 euro limit per game, any league in the world. It doesn't take long time to win big then. I placed maybe 50-60 bets in total.


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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Thu, Aug 23, 3:23 PM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

We are waiting for the operators to inform us when they will send you the money in order to inform you about.

 

We are the middle guys since we are Betting Agent Brokers and not sportsbook operators.

 

It usually takes a couple of days for their reply.

 

We will inform you as soon as we have any update.

 

 

Regards

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Axel
   
Mon, Aug 27, 7:07 PM
   
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Any reply yet?

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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Aug 27, 2018, 7:54 PM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

we have not been informed yet, but as we may see there are delays on their payments because we have requested some since the week before last one but they have not been settled.

 

We will immediately informed you as soon as we have any update on this.

 

 

Regards



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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Wed, Aug 29, 5:20 PM
   
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How is this going.
I sent money to you and nobody else. You need to guarantee this money


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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Fri, Aug 31, 10:26 AM
   
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I start to think you are not trustworthy.
You dont respond to my emails and until now no money got.
You force me to go on public forums if you dont give me any update here. I have been patient alot.

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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Fri, Aug 31, 3:58 PM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

Please try to understand that we are Broker Agents and NOT Bookies or Sportbook makers.

 

So we collect the money from Players and Agents and we are transfer them to the bookies and vice versa.

 

We think it is quite clear.

 

Please do not think that you will lose your money we are in this business for many years and no one lost money with us. Delays occur plenty of times.

 

Regards

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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Fri, Aug 31, 4:02 PM
   
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Hello again Axel,

 

Please be patient on this because as we have informed you this bookie experiences issues and delays on paying the Players last week.

 

We are on this and we need to inform you that we will update you soon as I have an update.

 

Please do not worry, you are with professionals, but please be very patient, it might take a while.

 

 

Regards

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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Sep 4, 2018, 11:29 AM
   
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Ive been waiting 14 days now since i ask you for withdrawal. Please?


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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Sep 7, 2018, 8:54 AM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

We are really sorry for this delay but please try to understand we are also waiting for the money from the bookie as well as our commission.

 

So we both waiting for them to send the money.

 

We also hate delays but plenty of times occur.

 

We will inform you  as soon as we have any update but as things seem there will be a big delay here because we are waiting for other player’s money before your request.

 

So please be patient.

 

 

 

Regards


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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Sep 11, 2018, 10:50 AM
   
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Any update?

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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Sep 12, 2018, 9:22 AM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

No news yet from this Bookie.

 

We will update you asap we have any update.

 

 

Regards

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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Sep 16, 2018, 10:52 AM
   
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Ridiculous. Give me contact details to this bookmaker i contact myself



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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Sep 17, 2018, 8:19 AM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

We are professionals and as you may realise we are not allowed to provide such info.

 

We need to ensure you  that we will do everything possible to collect your money and our c omission from this bookie.

 

Please bear with us and we will update you as soon as we have any update.

 

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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Sep 17, 2018, 11:25 AM
   
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I dont see the professionalism in receiving money from a customer and not taking responsibility for so many weeks.
You have a license and you are responsible for securing my money. Not some third party. I will start to spread the word to my network that you are not to be trustable and dont pay out winnings. Anyone opening an account with you for mollybet plus365 or any other bookmaker you open for can not count to get money paid out.

I have been very patient with you. If i dont receive money within 2 hours i will contact all.

Any agent opening accounts for a customer means they guarantee payment. If agent or upline dissapear the agent pays from his pocket. So it is up to you to honor that fulfilment and continue work or dont take responsibility as agent and ignore customers winning.


I hope for a peaceful solution but after so many weeks, its impossible


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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Sep 17, 2018, 12:07 PM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

Our purpose is to cover you 100% and we try for this. By spreading around wrong information you gain nothing at all.

 

Bear with us and you will get your money but you need to wait.

 

 

Regards


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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Sep 25, 2018, 5:23 PM
   
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So when will you give me my money???



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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Sep 27, 2018, 4:42 PM
   
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So now you dont even respond to my messages?
I will contact your licensor now and make a report


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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Sep 27, 2018, 6:00 PM
   
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Dear Axel,

 

Thanks for contacting us.

 

We respond every time we have to say something new, not the same again  and again. We are clear enough since day 1. We are brokers not bookies!

 

We have fully updated you about the reality and situation how it is.

 

We need to let you know for one more time that you are not the only one here that you have not collected your money, we also have not get our commissions from this bookie.

 

Please bear with us and let us do what we have to do to tins a solution and get our money as well as yours. We have informed you plenty of times that this might take a lot of time but this doesn’t mean that you will lose them.

 

We can assure you that we would do everything possible to cover you.

 

 

 

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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Oct 21, 2018, 10:16 AM
   
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So whats going on?

Why have you still not paid out my money?
Any broker should guarantee customers funds. If I open an sbo account with you and your agent disappears you will not pay customers? What kind of company is this. Scammers.
You are distrusted completely. You take people's money and dont pay out winnings. You claim you dont have the money and the money is with someone else. This is not something you mentioned initially and can be fake. You make up this nonsense to steal customers money. You dont even want to reveal who you claim stole your money. Why are you protecting such person then? Instead of cooperating so we can have and end.
I will find you and get my money from you thieves!



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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Oct 21, 2018, 10:21 AM
   
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You claim on your website
PROTECTED TRANSACTIONS

Your transactions are secure.







Why don't you fulfil your promises? Why dont you py out customer's money? Why do you ignore messages from customers


HOW CAN I BE SURE THAT MY FUNDS ARE SAFE WITH YOU??

Rebel Bet is licensed and regulated b. The gaming license requires us to hold sufficient funds in our bank accounts to honour all customer winnings





Why dont you keep your promises?



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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Oct 26, 2018, 6:19 PM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

Please behave yourself. We are in the same situation like you.

 

We are waiting for our money from our commissions as well. We put a pressure to the bookies but they told us to wait more in order to get our money.

 

Hope this make sense.

 

Regards

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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Oct 29, 2018, 8:02 AM
   
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How much more patience do you suggest someone should have if not 60 days+ ive been very patiently but my patience is running out. I have not even created a single forumthread regarding this but since 2 months is not enough i think this may be the last option. To make people beware of a company like yours. Including to warn all agents out there about you owing me money and not paying even after 2 months of possibility to collect funds.

Why dont you pay from your own pocket my money and later you collect from your mysterious person who owes you?
You claim that all funds are protected and that you have enough money in bank to honor customers winnings. Then why dont you use a part of these to settle me? Or maybe the statement is not true?

Keep in mind that I asked for a 5k withdrawal from each account ONLY and you dont even have 5k? What kind of company is this?
Pay me from your guaranteed money that you claim you have and I will forget about you.

I accept skrill MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM

Thank you

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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Nov 3, 2018, 7:57 AM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

Thanks for your kind email and sorry for the delay of our reply.

 

As mentioned plenty of times we have to wait for this situation to be resolved.

 

We appreciate your patience and we do respect this fact but this is the only thing we can do for now. We have lawyers and they have advised us so.

 

Since you are in this business you know that similar things are happening daily even from BIG Bookies and without any particular reason, because you have agreed with your terms and conditions.

 

So please bear with us and we will update you as soon as we have any update on this unpleasant case.

 

Please try to understand that they also owe us money as well from commissions, so we are in the same situation like you.

 

Hope all these make sense.

 

Regards


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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Nov 19, 2018, 12:18 PM
   
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Hows it going.
Send me partial payment please


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REBELBET INFORMATION DPT <info@rebelbet.com>
   
Nov 23, 2018, 7:23 PM
   
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Hello Axel,

 

We are still waiting for the bookie to send our money and yours as well.

 

We will keep you posted on this.

 

Thanks for your kind understanding.

 

 

Regards

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Axel Axel <MY-MAIL-REMOVED@GMAIL.COM>
   
Dec 7, 2018, 3:10 PM
   
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Why have i not received any yet.
Why dont you use your personal funds to settle me?



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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2018, 10:08:49 AM »

Had used rebelbet in the past and lost around 2k due to VPN usage. Specifically had opened a 10bet account which was opened under a real name so i suppose that they had no relationship with 10bet, they only open accounts on other people names etc. Interesting to see how your story will end.

By the way, are arbusers dealing with players complaints etc? If not, you should need further help with one of those forums dealing with complaints. Make sure you take all relevant screenshots from your accounts etc
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2018, 10:24:23 AM »

They offered an account with bet365 odds and 5k limits on every market and you didn't figure out it was a scam right away??

I have a chicken that drops 2 golden eggs a day but I'm tired of it.  Would you like to buy it from me?  50k only.  I take Neteller.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2018, 10:44:25 AM »

are arbusers dealing with players complaints etc? If not, you should need further help with one of those forums dealing with complaints.

a complaint is usefull against a real existing bookie with a license, that has the money but just doesn't want to pay.  in this case: there's nothing here, it's an amateurshow, there is no license, they don't have the money; what threads like this will do is warn other players (who can't figure it out by themselves this is fake) and make them take the website offline. they'll likely start over with a different name anyway,

i feel bad for axel, but players do have a responsibility.  especially in gambling related sites, everybody is after your money, and you shouldn't trust anyone.  don't get greedy; when there's a warning sign run as fast as you can.  there were 100 mllion warning signs here, nothing adds up with these guys. 
i've been doing this for 15 years, i got scammed so many times, so i know:  in some cases by books you really didn't expect had it in them (anyone remember pointbet?  or canbet?  or sportsalive?) , but also once, a long time ago, in sort of the same way axel got scammed here. something that's so obviously too good to be true and then doing it anyway. i was so naive and stupid, but you learn; it's just a painful lesson.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2018, 10:46:48 AM »

They offered an account with bet365 odds and 5k limits on every market and you didn't figure out it was a scam right away??

those are big words from someone who took a website seriously that promised you a 70% return a year, with a no-loss guarantee.  you came out of that with your money fortunately, and i'm glad for you, but apparently you didn't figure that one out right away either (despite being so obvious).
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2018, 12:00:38 PM »

Axel, try writtting in the forum called bookmakersforum, i think there are about 3 people with similar issue there and one of my friend also lost 8000 euros to them. Sometimes we are so smart but foolish to little things and you should not be blamed but helpped.

i remember the guys from the forum helped him but i will not tell you if there is a chance of you getting your money, but miracles do happen anyways.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2018, 12:13:01 PM »

By the way, are arbusers dealing with players complaints etc?

Yes, we are actively dealing with players complaints as far as they are referred by us.

anyone remember pointbet?  or canbet?  or sportsalive?

I remember all of them. My biggest escape was from GoldVictory. Escaping from all these situations demands knowledge and self constraint, but in some cases luck is also needed.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 12:15:40 PM »

They offered an account with bet365 odds and 5k limits on every market and you didn't figure out it was a scam right away??

those are big words from someone who took a website seriously that promised you a 70% return a year, with a no-loss guarantee.  you came out of that with your money fortunately, and i'm glad for you, but apparently you didn't figure that one out right away either (despite being so obvious).

There's a slight difference in the amounts involved as well.  And in my case, there is still not a single known case I can find (even now) of anyone not getting paid by that company.  But seriously, 5k limits on any market at bet365 odds?  That's not a 70% return...but several thousand percent return on yearly basis considering the turnover you can get.
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Re: Rebelbet.com OWES ME 31766 EURO Since August!
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 12:19:23 PM »

Axel84 has a responsibility for not completing the due diligence of this broker.
I read all the exchange of e-mails and rebelbet takes a position ''I pay you if I get paid''. Thus they put the risk of their choices to the player's back. These are not good ethics.
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