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Funds passing at Betfair
« on: January 07, 2019, 06:12:16 PM »

Hello to everyone..

Can someone please explain how "fund passing" work at exchange and how a player can make profit out of it?
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 06:39:15 PM »

Fund passing is when you find a dead market and you simply put wrong odds (lets say 1.01 for the outsider) and you lay it from your 2nd account.

Beware that most probably you will get caught and bets will be void in the best case scenario.
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2019, 07:35:29 PM »

Thanks for the reply  apoel

Yes i know the way..!! I dont understand where is my profit ? Because if a make a dead market to 1.03 for example  must place the same amount from the other side..!! It is that correct??
Can you explain please?
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2019, 09:05:24 PM »

No one makes a profit out of funds passing (except Betfair on commission and when they freeze the funds and seize them lol)

Its just a way of transferring money from one account to another without involving ewallets etc, usually when doing something shady
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2019, 09:41:50 PM »

No one makes a profit out of funds passing (except Betfair on commission and when they freeze the funds and seize them lol)

Its just a way of transferring money from one account to another without involving ewallets etc, usually when doing something shady

In my country it was used for scamming agents as well.

10 years ago, Betfair was providing master agents account whereas the middle agent could open up to 100 sub accounts. The agent could decide to have master account on USD/HKD/CAD etc. So when a customer deposited 1000 euros, you were given an account with 1000HKD. When you lost, you lost 1000HKD but the agent was taken 1000 euros from you etc.

So, they were trying to transfer funds from one account HKD account to another real HKD account. One bettor was loosing 1000HKD (equals to 50 euros), and the other bettor was winning 1000HKD (equals to 1000 euros).

No idea if betfair still providing such master agent accounts though.
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 06:44:31 AM »

Thank you for your excellent post Apoel81.
Fund passing is the reason why many agents went bust and the reason why almost no-one nowadays is providing extra liquidity and limits to players that really need it for genuine arbing/value betting action. Those who still provide extra liquidity and limits to players are now forced to check action on a daily basis and limit the number of clients only to ''friends and relatives''. Fund passing, as a mean of transferring undetected money from a person to another, could be used for many bad activities. Fund passing became the 2nd burden after the game fixers.
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2020, 09:54:34 AM »

Any agent that takes a percentage of their clients positions on an exchange is an idiot lol
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2020, 10:05:09 AM »

Any agent that takes a percentage of their clients positions on an exchange is an idiot lol

exaggerated. It depends on who are your customers. Obviously noone would like to take position on your arbs but many are willing to take position on mugs bets
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2020, 12:40:12 PM »

Any agent that takes a percentage of their clients positions on an exchange is an idiot lol

exaggerated. It depends on who are your customers. Obviously noone would like to take position on your arbs but many are willing to take position on mugs bets

Sorry guys, both wrong.
@dealer wins, some agents are filtering their clients and they know exactly what action will come from them. Instructions, goodwill, and mutual guarantees make sure that in the long-run no party will lose.
@apoel81, arbers are agent's best clients, in the same manner, they are Betfair's best clients. Obviously these are not mug bets but quite the contrary. Ever wonder why we notice that phenomenon in arbing action when money flows from Pinnacle and Betfair to soft bookmakers?
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Re: Funds passing at Betfair
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2020, 12:53:26 PM »

They both like arbers and they both dislike value bettors. Funds passing is illegal and no one wants to fuck with government so they cant allow it. Another thing is if funds passing is allowed, they would lose their payment processors too.
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