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kapetan1122
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What is next?
« on: February 21, 2019, 06:27:57 PM »

Dear Mr. xxxx,

Our system has detected your account to be wagering in a fraudulent manner.

Your wagering has been suspended.

Please confirm that you agree to place your tennis wagers only in Live tennis.


Best regards,
Customer Service Department

BTW this is message from Pinnacle

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2019, 06:35:28 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2019, 06:47:07 PM »

Man i am professional betting for 8 years and Arbusers know i am legit and few members from here know me personally and they know i dont do nothing fishy,this is how pinnacle treat winning customers,i was never thinking it will come to this but it seems that pinni is going wrong way.
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2019, 06:53:53 PM »

That was a joke, no offence. But have to agree with you, I've been reading a lot on daily basis, searching forums and it's clear that they are not what they used to be anymore. Btw. I never thought you mean Pinnacle. Shame on them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 07:28:50 PM »

they are not what they used to be anymore.

Exactly. Smart money is multiplied these last years and dump money is getting scarce. Obviously Kapetan's money is smart.
Pinnacle is in front of a dilemma:
1st choice, invest in software to continue accepting all action. This is what they did back in the days.
2nd choice, adopt soft bookmaker's techniques.
This is management's decision and it is crystal clear what their choice is.

I would like to know what is considered a ''fraudulent manner'' for Pinnacle. Maybe they fall down to the level of bookmaker that characterise arbing as illegal?
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 07:40:31 PM »

From what I learned is "nothing last forever". It would be naive to expect that even them will be arbers welcome forever. Everything is getting tighter these days and as I know big companies all they care of is profit so I'm not surprised at all. Shame this is happening but what can we do? We're clever community so we will adapt this way or another. As usual.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2019, 07:58:45 PM »

they are not what they used to be anymore.

Exactly. Smart money is multiplied these last years and dump money is getting scarce. Obviously Kapetan's money is smart.
Pinnacle is in front of a dilemma:
1st choice, invest in software to continue accepting all action. This is what they did back in the days.
2nd choice, adopt soft bookmaker's techniques.
This is management's decision and it is crystal clear what their choice is.

I would like to know what is considered a ''fraudulent manner'' for Pinnacle. Maybe they fall down to the level of bookmaker that characterise arbing as illegal?

Truth is i am beating their tennis lines and i am constantly winning long term,it seems that they dont like it and they decide to forbid me to bet prematch where i win more and allow me to bet live where i loose some of my money,so this is even worst than some softbooks.
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Re: What is next?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 08:01:03 PM »

Let me know what are your bets we will screw them other way :P
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2019, 08:44:13 PM »

They allow "Live" wagering but prevent "Prematch" wagering on your account? If fraudulent behaviour was the reason, i'd imagine the restrictions would be the other way around.

Maybe their management considers beating their lines consistently to be Fraudulent behaviour.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2019, 08:56:55 PM »

They allow "Live" wagering but prevent "Prematch" wagering on your account? If fraudulent behaviour was the reason, i'd imagine the restrictions would be the other way around.

Maybe their management considers beating their lines consistently to be Fraudulent behaviour.

I really dont know why they think my account is Fraudulent because i dont do nothing wrong,maybe its just excuse for them to limit me but like you said if i do something wrong i wpuld do it live where i could bet much more money and earn more if i do some fishy things.
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Re: What is next?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2019, 09:32:31 PM »

For Pinny to mention the word "fraudulent" either you are doing something dodgy, or Pinnacle have hit a new low.

Its one thing beating them and they limit you (I was limited to zero on Tennis by Pinnacle 7 years ago so it does happen), but quite another to accuse you of betting fraudulently.

I would email them back asking them to elaborate on what exactly they believe you are doing fraudulently.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2019, 04:29:46 AM »

I would email them back asking them to elaborate on what exactly they believe you are doing fraudulently.

That would educate the community. Thank you.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 04:59:00 AM »

Can't you just bet through brokers instead of directly with pinn?
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2019, 08:09:17 AM »

Can't you just bet through brokers instead of directly with pinn?

Its the same thing. The mail would go to broker account.
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2019, 08:32:55 AM »

Can't you just bet through brokers instead of directly with pinn?

Its the same thing. The mail would go to broker account.

Not quite. You are trying to avoid receiving the mail in the first place by
distributing your action across a number of accounts in an attempt to disguise your identity\patterns
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