BetBurger | Live and Pre-game surebets
RebelBetting - Turn betting into investing

Royal Dutch Shell

Where to invest the surplus of funds
campeones
To become a Pro
To become a ProTo become a ProTo become a Pro
Karma: 75
Posts: 383
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:44 am

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:57 pm

CharlieSheen99 wrote: Every stock went up because of the announce of the vaccine.
Maybe Arbusers is a manager in Pfizer as well ;D ;D
Pfizer's CEO is Greek. Who knows?
Geronimo
Gaining experience
Gaining experience
Karma: 4
Posts: 29
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:05 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:03 pm

alfonso88 wrote: Where are you guys buying shares? Which platform? And why? :)
I am using IB. Interactive Brokers (like many instutionals).
User avatar
CharlieSheen99
Pro
ProProProPro
Karma: 27
Posts: 482
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:56 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:39 pm

campeones wrote:
CharlieSheen99 wrote: Every stock went up because of the announce of the vaccine.
Maybe Arbusers is a manager in Pfizer as well ;D ;D
Pfizer's CEO is Greek. Who knows?
too many coincidences.... ;)
Alfa1234
Totally Pro
Totally ProTotally ProTotally ProTotally ProTotally Pro
Karma: 63
Posts: 978
Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 2:52 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:39 pm

alfonso88 wrote: Where are you guys buying shares? Which platform? And why? :)
Flatex, lowest fees I could find.
User avatar
gamblehappier
Pro
ProProProPro
Karma: 19
Posts: 414
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:40 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:12 pm

Alfa1234 wrote:
alfonso88 wrote: Where are you guys buying shares? Which platform? And why? :)
Flatex, lowest fees I could find.
Interactive brokers is good option.
Me personally i use 3 brokers. Interactive,e-toro(not good) and Revolut.Also combination of accounts is a good way to bypass 25k limit if you want to be day stock
trader.
I search for brokers who offer good margin accounts and i think Interactive is one of the best(2,5/100 margin).They double your deposits with low fee.

I read also Degiro is good choice and some people say that they offer 3x deposits but with high fees.Flatex is for specific countries.
I wiil advise you to find a good margin account with low fee and invest your capital and initially only care for longterm profits.
Last edited by gamblehappier on Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
Believe to yourself is the secret to success.
campeones
To become a Pro
To become a ProTo become a ProTo become a Pro
Karma: 75
Posts: 383
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:44 am

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:54 pm

You are a gifted person and you deserve to get paid for what you give for free.
User avatar
gamblehappier
Pro
ProProProPro
Karma: 19
Posts: 414
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:40 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:08 am

Nice analysis here Arbusers.The 4/100 dividend, its too attractive.The stock hit top bottom before one month as you suggested us to buy.I have bought but not too much.

I do not think i am late but i do not know what will happen with stock crash market.

When you see Warren Buffet buy so much gold stock,maybe chrash market is near.Actually now Royal stock is 13.99$ maybe i will wait for 12-13$.

Also one thing that is strange all ceo of Pfzier,Modena,Curevac,Astrazeneca sell their stocks and convert stocks to cash.
Maybe they do this because they believe,that right now,their stock is overvalued,because there is over-reaction to buy,after all these media news.
And if you bet against crowd you will win.Only with this way i can explain this reaction of covid-19 pharmacy ceos

Some people say that they are bot sells,but it is stupid,because the ceos will react to overbuy,in order to gain profit.They are not going to leave millions to open bots trades.

Of course inside trading has major role that we do not know.

Anyway keep up this nice Royal Dutch Shell.Maybe i will give a good buy after these dividend news.
Last edited by gamblehappier on Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
Believe to yourself is the secret to success.
neopas
Pro
ProProProPro
Karma: 47
Posts: 527
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:08 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:55 pm

Boss, we have 50% in profits plus dividends.
Should we keep the stock or take the money and run?
User avatar
apoel81
Pro
ProProProPro
Karma: 43
Posts: 439
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:23 am

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:01 pm

Admin was the reason i started investing in cryptos.

From now on will start investing in stock market as well  ;D
VidaBlue
To become a Pro
To become a ProTo become a ProTo become a Pro
Contact:
Karma: 68
Posts: 299
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:36 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:36 pm

apoel81 wrote: Admin was the reason i started investing in cryptos.

From now on will start investing in stock market as well  ;D
Counts for me as well.

Admin has this disclaimer:

Information is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice or any other advice. Information is general in nature and is not specific to you. You should not make any decision, financial or otherwise, based on any of the Information without undertaking your own due diligence.

Bla bla bla ... I invest in whatever he recommends. He is a smart person. He cannot be right always, noone can, and he might hit a losing streak now and then. But on average, he is much better than the average investor and I have much better chance in succeeding by being a sheep, doing what he tells me to, without undertaking my own due diligence.
User avatar
CharlieSheen99
Pro
ProProProPro
Karma: 27
Posts: 482
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:56 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:42 pm

VidaBlue wrote:
apoel81 wrote: Admin was the reason i started investing in cryptos.

From now on will start investing in stock market as well  ;D
Counts for me as well.

Admin has this disclaimer:

Information is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice or any other advice. Information is general in nature and is not specific to you. You should not make any decision, financial or otherwise, based on any of the Information without undertaking your own due diligence.

Bla bla bla ... I invest in whatever he recommends. He is a smart person. He cannot be right always, noone can, and he might hit a losing streak now and then. But on average, he is much better than the average investor and I have much better chance in succeeding by being a sheep, doing what he tells me to, without undertaking my own due diligence.
I do the same as yours. I have the feeling that Admin is so cautious with his recommendations for a good reason. He knows that some of us follow him.
Anyway, i won some thousands, just doing what he says. And i will continuous in the same way. He has all my confidence.
Littletroll1
Gaining experience
Gaining experience
Karma: 4
Posts: 56
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:27 am

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:08 pm

Would also like to chime in and say thanks to admin for good advice. I got on the band-wagon both on Shell and BTC, so it's worked out well.

I am however thinking about selling Shell now. I can get a lower tax rate this year, so makes sense. But what do you think admin? Are you keeping the stock?
User avatar
arbusers
Administrator
AdministratorAdministratorAdministratorAdministratorAdministrator
Contact:
Karma: 621
Posts: 6196
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:34 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:05 pm

A massive thank you to all of you guys. Really appreciated.
neopas wrote: Boss, we have 50% in profits plus dividends.
Should we keep the stock or take the money and run?
Littletroll1 wrote: Would also like to chime in and say thanks to admin for good advice. I got on the band-wagon both on Shell and BTC, so it's worked out well.

I am however thinking about selling Shell now. I can get a lower tax rate this year, so makes sense. But what do you think admin? Are you keeping the stock?
To address your questions, I highlight that I can't take into account taxation, simply because each country has a different taxation system, especially when it comes to stocks. This is your job to do, as it is my job to do when it comes to my personal annual taxation.

Now let's have a look at potential exit points. Simply put, we don't have any. The reason is that it is too early to say, and we need the market to give more data and hints that will guide us. My general idea about the behavior of this stock would be based on a very simple plan. To observe the monthly RSI.
Fast traders might be taking a look at the daily RSI 14, but this is not our style. When in doubt, we zoom out, and the best way to zoom out is the monthly RSI. I would like to remind you that this is the same index that pinpointed a great buying opportunity.

Have a look at the following graph:

RDSA.png


What I am doing here, is technical analysis on the index, and not on the stock itself. This is a sneaky way to understand the market, and I am implementing it because the price would be sneaker than me.
So when the monthly RSI index goes near 65, this will be the first point where we should start thinking about an exit point. Notice, I am not saying this is an exit point, I am saying we should start thinking about an exit point. When the time comes, we will read the market through different lenses and we will blend them all together and then decide if it is good to stay in or out. A monthly RSI of 65, corresponds to a price between 20 and 25 Euros. It is very lucrative. A value bet to use our vocabulary.
In the stock markets time in is better than timing. Because violent changes in prices are taking place only in a small number of days. We need to have these days when we hold the stocks.
Hopefully, it will take some time until we get to a monthly RSI of 65. During this time, we will get more dividends and for as long as the price goes up, these dividends will be more and more valuable. Imagine a situation, when the dividend performance is 20-25% annually. You will have to think twice before selling this stock.

To sum up, we keep the stock, we get paid the dividends and we enjoy the ride at the crest of the tidal wave.
And of course, we visit this forum to see when we sell the position.
Last edited by arbusers on Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
arbusers
Administrator
AdministratorAdministratorAdministratorAdministratorAdministrator
Contact:
Karma: 621
Posts: 6196
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:34 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:21 pm

Yesterday, we got paid the dividend from RDSA.

However, this post is in order to inform you that today I sold half of my position in RDSA at an average price of 15.73.

I will explain what triggered this decision and present my way of thinking at this point in time for the stock of RDSA. As you noticed, there is no graph in this post and that means that my decision has a weak background based on technical analysis, while other factors played a bigger role. At the same time, the fact that I sold only 50% and not the total of my position indicates there is some uncertainty.

So let’s examine that weak technical analysis first. Actually, it is very simple. The stock tried twice to break the 16 euros price and it failed. This indicates there are certain limits in the strength that propels the price move.

If someone were to ask me today, "Which of the two predictions for the course of the economy would I prefer to hear: A good economist's or a good epidemiologist's?", I would certainly prefer those of the latter. Thus, it is clear that developments on the Covid19 front will determine the price of the stocks. We were able to understand that something good was coming back in November when we bought the stock, and now we are able to understand there is a big possibility that something bad lies ahead.

We are not epidemiologists (what a Greek word!) and we can’t think like one, but we live and work in societies and we receive multiple signals. Indeed the vaccine is big and positive news, but the devil hides in the details. What are these details?

1.  The EU bought vaccines from various pharmaceutical companies. Unfortunately, the efficacy rates of their vaccines are varying from 70% to 95%. Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines that are considered the most effective (efficacy rate of 95%) are a minority among other vaccines.
2    The anti-vaccination wave is growing competing with human stupidity. It came to our attention a new trend among societies, people who are getting the Covid19 virus voluntarily in order to avoid the vaccine. Mark our words, anti-vaccination will be a serious problem.
3.    A new wave of Covid19 is expected right after Christmas, as the West is fed up with multiple Quarantines and lockdowns. We noticed the disaster in the US after Thanksgiving, and we believe a similar pattern will be repeated again in the US and Europe.
4.    Still, there is no indication about the time length of protection guaranteed by vaccines. If the protection is there for 4-5 months, then all population will have to get a 2nd or a 4th dose in the Autumn 2021. The efficacy rate is not yet confirmed in the real world.
5.    In today’s Europe, a percentage of the population consists of young illegal immigrants with no social discipline and no will to protect the societies they milk. Since their families are still in the 3rd world, they do not care if they get Covid19, due to their youth, inexperience, and attitude. Even if their families are brought to Europe, they come from backgrounds where anti-vaccination is taught as an attitude within their homes in their countries of origin.

Of course, there is always the chance that we are mistaken and the market proves us wrong. That is why we keep 50% of our position in RDSA. So far we enjoyed a 50% plus dividends performance and we are very happy with it.

FYI, RDSA is just 1 of the stocks I hold. Today I sold % of other stocks as well.

Information is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice or any other advice. Information is general in nature and is not specific to you. You should not make any decision, financial or otherwise, based on any of the Information without undertaking your own due diligence.
Last edited by arbusers on Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
x-casino
Has experience
Has experienceHas experience
Karma: 11
Posts: 151
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:17 pm

Re: Royal Dutch Shell

Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:20 pm

I expressed my surprise about your timing in the first place.
x-casino wrote: You must be having some kind of inside information as your timing with Shell is unbelievable. You managed to buy at the exact bottom in both March and November. Even the times of your posting are some minutes away from the 1st bottom.
Speechless.
And now, you sold 50% of your position right before the bad news from the UK and the mutation of the virus.
arbusers wrote: and now we are able to understand there is a big possibility that something bad lies ahead.
In my place, there is a proverb saying: A repeated coincidence ceases to be a coincidence.
I am really wondering if there is a source of very precious and valuable information, or if you are extracting your strategy strictly from analysis and observation.
I suppose that prices will go down tomorrow, maybe they go down a lot... would you buy back that 50% you sold?

Again, many thanks for your alerts and your performance.

Return to “Stock Markets and Cryptos”