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Arbitrage,Valuebet

Sun May 31, 2020 2:22 pm

Hello To everyone good luck And best roi to everyone


I have some question to dear valuebettor for you

What is the normal  sum for to start valuebet?

How i know how much euro Bet To one match and also odds ,for example they have any scanner that say that bet 30 euro for 1.9 odde or where i know?

Please explain little more about ,Thanks for everyone
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Sun May 31, 2020 3:00 pm

isaac11045 wrote: Hello To everyone good luck And best roi to everyone


I have some question to dear valuebettor for you

What is the normal  sum for to start valuebet?

How i know how much euro Bet To one match and also odds ,for example they have any scanner that say that bet 30 euro for 1.9 odde or where i know?

Please explain little more about ,Thanks for everyone
Please search forum. You could get much better answers for your questions if you just spent 1h by reading forum. We dont know nothing about you so how come you expect we give solid answers then? :) 
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Sun May 31, 2020 5:35 pm

arctrading wrote:
isaac11045 wrote: Hello To everyone good luck And best roi to everyone


I have some question to dear valuebettor for you

What is the normal  sum for to start valuebet?

How i know how much euro Bet To one match and also odds ,for example they have any scanner that say that bet 30 euro for 1.9 odde or where i know?

Please explain little more about ,Thanks for everyone
Please search forum. You could get much better answers for your questions if you just spent 1h by reading forum. We dont know nothing about you so how come you expect we give solid answers then? :)


If you do not know about me or Something what i am asking ,Do  not reply something
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:59 am

isaac11045 wrote: What is the normal  sum for to start valuebet?
There is no answer to this question. You have to say how many and which bookmakers you are able to use.
isaac11045 wrote: How i know how much euro Bet To one match and also odds ,for example they have any scanner that say that bet 30 euro for 1.9 odde or where i know?
I am not sure if I understand your question, but if you are asking about how to determine the height of each bet, you could use one of the following:

- Fixed amount.
- Use a ''to win'' amount.
- Use kelly criterion.
- Use a softaware like BetBurger or RebelBetting who will automatically determine the height of the bet.
- Gain experience and then you determine the height of the bet.
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:11 am

arbusers wrote:
isaac11045 wrote: What is the normal  sum for to start valuebet?


Thanks mod for helping

Yes ,you understood so true my question and thanks for reply

i have 1k euro in my hand also I used P...v..e b...t surebet scanner i paid and buy valuebet scanner

But they have something a more Value  5%10%and also different odds on the scan ecran Andi i do not know how much will start to any match or which value or which persentage or how much bet on a day ,i am not using a  bot


How much euro to bet what persentage and how much match on the day

Is there any live valuebet scanner that say me how much bet on the match and which persentage?

Thanks


There is no answer to this question. You have to say how many and which bookmakers you are able to use.
isaac11045 wrote: How i know how much euro Bet To one match and also odds ,for example they have any scanner that say that bet 30 euro for 1.9 odde or where i know?
I am not sure if I understand your question, but if you are asking about how to determine the height of each bet, you could use one of the following:

- Fixed amount.
- Use a ''to win'' amount.
- Use kelly criterion.
- Use a softaware like BetBurger or RebelBetting who will automatically determine the height of the bet.
- Gain experience and then you determine the height of the bet.
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:04 am

What is P...v..e b...t surebet scanner ?
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:07 am

isaac11045 wrote:
arctrading wrote:
isaac11045 wrote: Hello To everyone good luck And best roi to everyone


I have some question to dear valuebettor for you

What is the normal  sum for to start valuebet?

How i know how much euro Bet To one match and also odds ,for example they have any scanner that say that bet 30 euro for 1.9 odde or where i know?

Please explain little more about ,Thanks for everyone
Please search forum. You could get much better answers for your questions if you just spent 1h by reading forum. We dont know nothing about you so how come you expect we give solid answers then? :)


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lol. I just gave you a friendly advice about how could get those answers for youre questions by simply searching the forum for an hour or so. I would say no one knows you in this forum unless they are youre friends.

You asked for the sum to start with. If you live in Austria or Germany (where salarys are like 2k per month) that sum must be bigger compared to the sum needed for a person who lives in low cost country(where avg salary is maybe 500 per month) just to make efforts worthwile.

Staking already suggested to you by arbusers.

"Please explain a little more" - What exactly to explain?

If you have 1k and you dont know much then 10eur per bet would be good start so just you would not burn it. Of course you can implement 30% kelly and will be good with that also probs. :)
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:39 pm

You seem like a newbie, so my advice would be to start out small and find your niche. You might want to begin with very small stake or just writing your bets down in an Excel spreadsheet to figure out if it is really sustainable. A good body of work would be a few hundred bets. Analyze the profitability of the markets and then start off betting a bit bigger.

As arbusers mentioned, staking is also important. I use flat stakes most of the times. This means betting the same amount of money on each bet. Betting to win a certain amount on the value bets can also be very lucrative and i find it a good strategy too, especially if the value is decent. Kelly criterion is not the best choice for a newbie. Assigning an exact probability on a bet is subjective. Also, your bank can vanish very quickly.

Different Sports vary in difficulty to learn and find value. They are also approached in different ways by bookies when it comes to account limiting and pricing, so keep that in mind. A lot of bookies just copy Pinnacle prices with bigger margins, because it's the sharpest Sportsbook, exception being American Sports.

To be honest, i think now is a bad time to just start exploring value betting, as it might be in it's peak. And thus if there is value to be had, you most likely will be beaten to the punch by other bettors, which lowers the odds. Bookies are also countering it by limiting accounts and they might increase the margins in the foreseeable future.

There is no harm in exploring it though. If you do, proceed with caution. Giving myself as an example, i have gotten myself in bad financial trouble twice in the beginning of my value betting endeavours due to bad staking. If you can keep a level head and you have found a niche, that would be a good time to increase your stakes. There is no fixed amount for this. It depends on your bank and what the limits are in the bookie in question. 5 % of bank is probably the most standard bet for a typical value bettor.
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Re: Arbitrage,Valuebet

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Jouban wrote: You seem like a newbie, so my advice would be to start out small and find your niche. You might want to begin with very small stake or just writing your bets down in an Excel spreadsheet to figure out if it is really sustainable. A good body of work would be a few hundred bets. Analyze the profitability of the markets and then start off betting a bit bigger.

As arbusers mentioned, staking is also important. I use flat stakes most of the times. This means betting the same amount of money on each bet. Betting to win a certain amount on the value bets can also be very lucrative and i find it a good strategy too, especially if the value is decent. Kelly criterion is not the best choice for a newbie. Assigning an exact probability on a bet is subjective. Also, your bank can vanish very quickly.

Different Sports vary in difficulty to learn and find value. They are also approached in different ways by bookies when it comes to account limiting and pricing, so keep that in mind. A lot of bookies just copy Pinnacle prices with bigger margins, because it's the sharpest Sportsbook, exception being American Sports.

To be honest, i think now is a bad time to just start exploring value betting, as it might be in it's peak. And thus if there is value to be had, you most likely will be beaten to the punch by other bettors, which lowers the odds. Bookies are also countering it by limiting accounts and they might increase the margins in the foreseeable future.

There is no harm in exploring it though. If you do, proceed with caution. Giving myself as an example, i have gotten myself in bad financial trouble twice in the beginning of my value betting endeavours due to bad staking. If you can keep a level head and you have found a niche, that would be a good time to increase your stakes. There is no fixed amount for this. It depends on your bank and what the limits are in the bookie in question. 5 % of bank is probably the most standard bet for a typical value bettor.

Thanks for you long Message and Opunion ,
But they have little thing that i am not understanding in my scanner they have roi and odds ,i have also 1 k on the bank which is earning surebet every month ,but is so bored to contione in surebet Roi is too less at these month,Also i want to start but it is so intresting and diffucult to start ,one match stake also one match odds,If i found 2.9 2.6.3 how much to bet it ,Because they have also risk to lost this odds,And also so lowest odds which is comfortoble how much stake to 1.5 2 3 evrryone say this is arber opunion ,okay is that true arber doing that ,But if I bet
50 euro one time 2 odds(lost
And than 100*2.5 oddd(lost
100*3odds(lost
What will arber do ?i think they have very important rule in Valuebet which is Way to go find How much odds to bet which stake ?
Yesterday night i bet 5 time  50-70 euro to hight than 2.5 odds which is scanner Found ,but now i am minus -300 euro ,my bank is going low ?what will do best thing to find best way?.

Thanks for Give some to for me ,And thanke for more helps

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