Hi,
I just want to warm You from playing in betinasia.
I started using their service at the beginning of 2020.
Today I was unable to log in to my orbit account. So I talked on chat if they can help me. They told me to write an email to get new passwords. So I did it.
The answer to my email was that:
"Hello Patryk,
We would like to inform you that your account activity has been detected by Orbit Exchange and Betfair. What you are doing which is fund passing is strictly against the terms and conditions of Orbit Exchange and Betfair, therefore your account will be permanently closed. No further deposit or withdrawals can be made to or from your account.
We thank you for your service."
My answer was:
"Dear Ema,
I am not a fund passer. I use the arbitrage system to earn money on a sportsbook. I have subscriptions in betburger to get odds differences between sportsbook and exchange.
I also had problems with Orbit via Asian Connect. So I decided to create an account with betinasia.
Please take a look at this topic: problem-with-betinasia-solved-t7451/78225#p78225
What can I do in this case?"
and
"I don't have nervous to fight anymore with Orbit. I understand that You closed my account with my money on orbit account.
Please Can You only tell me if I can withdraw my money from Bia Wallet? Or this money You also wanna took from me?"
...
what had happened in the next few minutes? All my money from BIA WALLET disappear. I had 400 Euro on my big wallet + around 320 euro on my orbit account.
This is the second time Orbit blocked my account with my money.
Why do they block me? As I wrote I use betburger. A few days ago I caught someone's mistakes odd. Lay 1,01 on NBA on the very low line. There was more than 500 euro to take. But I caught around 130 euro...
So because of that, They decided to take all my money. Maybe betinasia have something more to say about that?
PS. Before I registered to betinasia, I wrote on chat with them and told them that I had problems with orbit via Asian Connect and if it is allowed to open a new account with them. They said it is ok.
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- 4donisiu
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They don't told me anything more. They don't replied on this emails.
On live chat the guy told that he can't help me because it is other department.
Now they also blocked my betinasia account. Without saying anything.
So... I lost my nervous and said vulgarity to them because I don't have any other ideas what should I do to get back my money...
On live chat the guy told that he can't help me because it is other department.
Now they also blocked my betinasia account. Without saying anything.
So... I lost my nervous and said vulgarity to them because I don't have any other ideas what should I do to get back my money...
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Now they replied:
"Hello Patryk,
Thank you for reaching BetInAsia.
Your account has been permanently closed, therefore no further activity will be encountered.
We thank you for your service, we wish you all the best.
Kind regards,
Ema"
Still don't know what exactly bet was "suspicious". I made every day many bets. I played since january 2020. I played almost everyday.
"Hello Patryk,
Thank you for reaching BetInAsia.
Your account has been permanently closed, therefore no further activity will be encountered.
We thank you for your service, we wish you all the best.
Kind regards,
Ema"
Still don't know what exactly bet was "suspicious". I made every day many bets. I played since january 2020. I played almost everyday.
- czoker
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The truth is if you catch somebody mistake on exchange you can`t sleep well with orbit exchange account because every bet could be marked as a funds passer.
I tought that asian connect closed accounts because they took more risk on themself than other agents but as we can see it is not about ac88 only ... First time I can see the case with BIA, really shit happend.
This is not how agent and exchange should working, I had similar situation with AC88 but after I send a few messages directly to orbit exchange they unblocked my account. 0 help from agents unfortunatelly so this is how they trait their customers
I tought that asian connect closed accounts because they took more risk on themself than other agents but as we can see it is not about ac88 only ... First time I can see the case with BIA, really shit happend.
This is not how agent and exchange should working, I had similar situation with AC88 but after I send a few messages directly to orbit exchange they unblocked my account. 0 help from agents unfortunatelly so this is how they trait their customers
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ta
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hello,
i thing the real problem is orbitxch ,not BIA.
About my problem, i see that.
Bet on "strange" markets in orbit is like fund passer.
you bet in 1,01 lay , i bet in game betting in wta palermo , and the same , not block but dont pay until today after 3 days of investigation.
Its hard think about that, but if you see my friend, even one member guilty me by fund passer without know nothing , now see orbit guys ....
And i always see this forum totaly trust and help, and i think the same, but isnt not great when he explain the situation, and the administrator its the first saying not to make that posts.
But the situation for me at this time is nor great, i dont have 100% trust in nobody.
I hope you recover your money ,mate.
i thing the real problem is orbitxch ,not BIA.
About my problem, i see that.
Bet on "strange" markets in orbit is like fund passer.
you bet in 1,01 lay , i bet in game betting in wta palermo , and the same , not block but dont pay until today after 3 days of investigation.
Its hard think about that, but if you see my friend, even one member guilty me by fund passer without know nothing , now see orbit guys ....
And i always see this forum totaly trust and help, and i think the same, but isnt not great when he explain the situation, and the administrator its the first saying not to make that posts.
But the situation for me at this time is nor great, i dont have 100% trust in nobody.
I hope you recover your money ,mate.
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ta
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The big problem is theres no other clone of betfair , as good as orbit .
In my opinion, orbit ,maybe because to know its the better clone of betfair , do what they want, and the agent name go after bad reputation.
Re: Bet in Asia stole my money! Be aware !
you post at same time , i totally agree 200% .czoker wrote: The truth is if you catch somebody mistake on exchange you can`t sleep well with orbit exchange account because every bet could be marked as a funds passer.
I tought that asian connect closed accounts because they took more risk on themself than other agents but as we can see it is not about ac88 only ... First time I can see the case with BIA, really shit happend.
This is not how agent and exchange should working, I had similar situation with AC88 but after I send a few messages directly to orbit exchange they unblocked my account. 0 help from agents unfortunatelly so this is how they trait their customers
The big problem is theres no other clone of betfair , as good as orbit .
In my opinion, orbit ,maybe because to know its the better clone of betfair , do what they want, and the agent name go after bad reputation.
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- 4donisiu
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Thank You very much for your posts guys !
I still have small hope that betinasia will review my case again.
But maybe You know how to play in betfair if You live in restricted country (as me Poland) ? Is Orbit only the way? I will not trust them anymore. For normal players maybe it will be ok, but for arbers it is really risky.
I still have small hope that betinasia will review my case again.
But maybe You know how to play in betfair if You live in restricted country (as me Poland) ? Is Orbit only the way? I will not trust them anymore. For normal players maybe it will be ok, but for arbers it is really risky.
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The way I see it, it is Orbit and not BetInAsia that keeps your money. I believe the best way to go is follow Czoker's way and contact Orbit directly. If your action was pure arbing, then you will easily present screenshots of the correlating bets and therefore prove what you say. After this, Orbit will have no justification for keeping your funds.
You also mentioned that funds in the BIA wallet are not accessible.
If your account is referred by arbusers, send me a PM mentioning the account e-mail and I am willing to dig further for your case.
You also mentioned that funds in the BIA wallet are not accessible.
If your account is referred by arbusers, send me a PM mentioning the account e-mail and I am willing to dig further for your case.
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We intervened in the case, but since your account is not referred by arbusers, the things we can discuss are very limited. However, we are bringing you in touch with BetInAsia's upper management.
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Does any of you get an email at May , that his Orbit Exchange account will be updated?
I received such an email telling me that for better and faster experience, my Orbit exchange account will be upgraded.
I was given a new account user id and my funds were transferred to my new account.
However i noticed no difference at overall experience.
It was strange to me.
I mention this story just for the case...
I received such an email telling me that for better and faster experience, my Orbit exchange account will be upgraded.
I was given a new account user id and my funds were transferred to my new account.
However i noticed no difference at overall experience.
It was strange to me.
I mention this story just for the case...
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Hello dear Arbusers community,
We believe it is our obligation to have a statement on the given issue.
We act as agent of OrbitExchange which is provided by Betfair. We are forced to follow regulations and directives from our partners. Fundpassing is strictly forbidden and we are forced to close down and suspend any pending withdrawal when this occurs until we make a final decision regarding this cases.
Player in question have reached out to us after Betfair has confirmed him as fundpasser to show his cases and we are taking the decision with our management on this behalf. In the meantime, since we are inspecting his betting activity to see if there are other fraudulent bets placed, we are forced to move his funds to holding account.
We will update community with outcome of this investigation.
We believe it is our obligation to have a statement on the given issue.
We act as agent of OrbitExchange which is provided by Betfair. We are forced to follow regulations and directives from our partners. Fundpassing is strictly forbidden and we are forced to close down and suspend any pending withdrawal when this occurs until we make a final decision regarding this cases.
Player in question have reached out to us after Betfair has confirmed him as fundpasser to show his cases and we are taking the decision with our management on this behalf. In the meantime, since we are inspecting his betting activity to see if there are other fraudulent bets placed, we are forced to move his funds to holding account.
We will update community with outcome of this investigation.
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Hello,
As we heard from our management, after deducting funds which was involved with fundpassing activity and detected by Betfair, we have enabled your account and you can keep on using it.
We would like to inform community it is not BetInAsia or OrbitExchange who keeps players funds. When Betfair detects that bets are involved with fundpassing, they inform OrbitExchange to deduct funds, if given player doesn't have enough balance to pay, it will be agent's responsibility to pay funds that was earned via Fundpassing.
As we heard from our management, after deducting funds which was involved with fundpassing activity and detected by Betfair, we have enabled your account and you can keep on using it.
We would like to inform community it is not BetInAsia or OrbitExchange who keeps players funds. When Betfair detects that bets are involved with fundpassing, they inform OrbitExchange to deduct funds, if given player doesn't have enough balance to pay, it will be agent's responsibility to pay funds that was earned via Fundpassing.
4donisiu wrote: Hi,
I just want to warm You from playing in betinasia.
I started using their service at the beginning of 2020.
Today I was unable to login to my orbit account. So I talked on chat if they can help me. They told me to write an email to get new paswords. So I did it.
The answer on my email was that:
"Hello Patryk,
We would like to inform you that your account activity has been detected by Orbit Exchange and Betfair. What you are doing which is fund passing is strictly against terms and conditions of Orbit Exchange and Betfair, therefore your account will be permanently closed. No further deposit or withdrawals can be made to or from your account.
We thank you for your service."
My answer was:
"Dear Ema,
I am not fund passer. I use arbitrage system to earn money od sportsbook. I have subsrciption in betburger to get odds differences between sportsbook and exchange.
I also had problems with Orbit via Asian Connect. So I decided to create account with betinasia.
Please take a look on this topic: https://arbusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=0
What can I do in this case?"
and
"I don't have nervous to fight anymore with Orbit. I understand that You closed my account with my money on orbit account.
Please Can You only tell me if I can withdraw my money from Bia Wallet? Or this money You also wanna took from me?"
...
what had happend in next few minutes? All my money from BIA WALLET dissapear. I had 400 Euro on my bia wallet + around 320 euro on my orbit account.
This is second time when Orbit blocked my account with my money.
Why they blocked me? As I wrote I use betburger. Few days ago I catched someone mistake odd. Lay 1,01 on NBA on very low line. There was more than 500 euro to took. But I catched around 130 euro...
So because of that They decided to took all my money. Maybe betinasia have something more to say about that?
PS. Before I registered to betinasia, I wrote on chat with them and told that I had problems with orbit via Asian Connect and if it is allow to open new account with them. They said it is ok.
BEST PRICES AND HIGHEST LIMITS - BETINASIA.com - Your destination for ASIAN BROKERAGE and BETTING SERVICES - support@betinasia.com