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A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:46 am

I was encouraged to share some of my experiences as a member of a gambling syndicate.
I know there are some gambling syndicates in the forum, Punteam is one of them and you can read on their thread their background and their tactics. Other syndicates remain silent while taking as much information as they can find.

The word syndicate comes with negative connotations. I believe many things in the gambling industry come with negative connotations and most of them for unfair reasons. A syndicate is demonised mainly from bookmakers and people who only have to lose from a syndicate. While many syndicates operate in grey or black areas, our syndicate is completely transparent and legal. We are a registered company that operates and respects all laws and regulations. Think twice before even thinking that we do something illegal. Maybe the word syndicate is not appropriate in my case. The appropriate word is The Company. But since our very beginning we used the word syndicate internally and that word stayed there to label us.

My role in the syndicate is managerial. I am responsible for legal and human resources matters. That means that my knowledge on gambling is not that deep and can't be compared with the knowledge of a trader or an advantage player. If you ask me how to cross arb I have nothing to answer because I am clueless. But if you ask me how to protect your self from a bad bookmaker, this is my work.

I come from eastern Europe and I studied law. Luck brought me in the syndicate. I could never imagine I would do that job some years ago. This is the maximum I can say for me and the syndicate. We are registered in a European country but we are a multinational company with people in 10+ countries. People from 16 nations are working with us one way or another. Some times we had 20-21 nations working for us.

So that was my introduction. I will share some of my experiences here and I will be happy to answer all questions that will not be a danger for my company and what we do. I am not here for a testosterone competition. Sorry guys. I will not participate in any confrontation and I hope you all enjoy what I post here in a positive spirit.
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:49 am

You re a locust, that is what you are. The rest is just words and fugazzi as arbusers says.
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:19 am

@campeones Interesting question is if this model is sustainable and has a future. As you see smart betting is becoming harder and harder with limitations confiscations and all the rest. Do you see any future in this business ? So how many years do you give it till is not sustainable anymore ?
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:29 am

I don't get it, why do you need so many people, how can you earn enough money so everybody has nice share? You say nothing illegal, so I guess no bribes for players, or referee.  8)
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:36 am

My question is do you have access to some bookmakers/exchanges/agents that we regular players dont, who only deal with such organisations or are awailable only on black market?
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:46 am

You say you are 100% transparent and legal, does it mean that you only bet with sharp bookies which allow corporate accounts, like Starlizard syndicate?
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:41 pm

it looks like that this guy collect bets from local bookmakers from various people in various countries .. People who bet these matches keep part of profits..  am i wrong?
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:51 pm

i dont know if i have your contact campeones on skype from many years ago...how can i contact you?
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:09 pm

My bet is:

Bosses at the phone with people betting in the shops.

They are now trying to create a bot and an alert service for that bot.
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:09 pm

People from 16 nations are working with us one way or anothe
I offer myself to be 17th nation if you have resources and available bookies to bet on Albanian Volleyball League  ???? you wont be disappointed as long as i made bet365 remove all handicap markets on albanian volley league (value bets , not fixings)????
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:20 pm

Having access to locals in many countries is the only way to have big bets on exotic leagues nowadays
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:20 pm

must work with local bookmakers in several countries, if you are interested in someone from brazil we can talk
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:37 pm

I have a network of people in all Yugoslavia and we can bet on line and in shops.
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:59 pm

crazy tipster wrote: I have a network of people in all Yugoslavia and we can bet on line and in shops.
Contact me
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Re: A gambling syndicate

Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:58 pm

I will reply to all questions and comments.
Wolfie wrote: @campeones Interesting question is if this model is sustainable and has a future. As you see smart betting is becoming harder and harder with limitations confiscations and all the rest. Do you see any future in this business ? So how many years do you give it till is not sustainable anymore ?
We come back to the eternal question. My answer will surprise you I am sure.

Smart gambling will be here for ever. It will never stop.

As you see I am using the words smart gambling, and not smart betting. Our syndicate is not only about betting. We are also taking advantage of the casinos. We could expand to poker easily but it is our decision not to skater our resources around. Maybe we will use poker later, who knows! And when I say betting, I mean all kinds of smart betting. This includes arbing and value betting online and off line.

If your focus is only online then you already feel the pressure of governmental regulations and bookmaker's limitations. This is right to say. But have a look at my view also. Some time regulations create more opportunities than those they kill. I have a list of countries that created a healthy betting environment that smart bettors thrive.

If you live in Europe then you are used in restrictions, regulations, taxes, GDPRs, PSDs and all these suppressing things, and you think that everything is like Europe. This is a mistake. The rest 96% of the planet might not be suppressing gambling and might have a lore liberal view on taxes. In my next posts I will mention countries that created healthy environments and I will describe what we do there.
Trevorr wrote: I don't get it, why do you need so many people, how can you earn enough money so everybody has nice share? You say nothing illegal, so I guess no bribes for players, or referee.
We need manpower because we run many projects and many different countries. We are centralised and decentralised at the same moment, I know this is odd for your ears, but I will explain later. And of course, there are no bribes for players, referees or anyone else. We are not game fixers. If you already speak about bribes and illegality, that means that you already accepted the propaganda that betting syndicates are illegal. That is a lie they want you to believe.
kapetan1122 wrote: My question is do you have access to some bookmakers/exchanges/agents that we regular players dont, who only deal with such organisations or are awailable only on black market?
Yes, we have access to many bookmakers and companies that regular players have never heard before. But believe me. We dont need that access and we dont care what they do. Some years ago when arbing was much stronger than value betting, you would desperately need this access. But now we are focused on value betting and casinos. We don't need anyone in the black market, if a black market exists.

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