Arbusers

Hello,

Does anyone which bookmakers get liveodds from Betradar?

This is a huge list !

What is the sense of this list ? A lot of bookies have several data sources ...

Because I have a local bookmaker who only uses Betradar for liveodds, but they are not on any arbing software.

So need to find a bookmaker with similar odds.

If the list is huge, please mention some bookies that only uses Betradar for liveodds.

felix69 wrote: This is a huge list !

What is the sense of this list ? A lot of bookies have several data sources ...

This list wasn't so huge after all, since you can't even name one

https://www.betradar.com/about-us/our-clients/ start here 

Can't really use that for much, as that's all their clients.

SBO, Bet365, 188 (and probably most of the others) do not get their liveodds from Betradar. They use their services in other ways.

Doesn't anyone know just 1 bookmaker that uses Betradar for all their liveodds?!

kustef wrote: https://www.betradar.com/about-us/our-clients/ start here 

So the real question is ''who is not using Betradar?''
I believe there are more bookmakers/operators in the list above that would like to keep it as a secret for their own and obvious reasons.

No doubt about that.

But with all those bookies using Betradar in one way or another. And with Betradar being the most used live odds provider in the world, you'd think that someone knew just 1 bookmaker ;-)

Additionally to all the said above; in betradar you can set a lot of parameters down to each match to change the odds keys ...

As the services of betradar are not cheap, your local bookmaker will use a service from cashpoint for example.

They use Betradar for starting line but then each one of them has its own market. Odds move according to bookie or bookie group market. So if the local bookie is taking them from betradar directly than it has no clone. Can you name the bookie ? Maybe we can help you better.

Wolfie wrote: They use Betradar for starting line but then each one of them has its own market. Odds move according to bookie or bookie group market. So if the local bookie is taking them from betradar directly than it has no clone. Can you name the bookie ? Maybe we can help you better.

Not sure what Littletroll is looking for, but maybe you can help me with a clone for Bet25.dk? I think they also get their odds from Betradar.

Wolfie wrote: They use Betradar for starting line but then each one of them has its own market. Odds move according to bookie or bookie group market. So if the local bookie is taking them from betradar directly than it has no clone. Can you name the bookie ? Maybe we can help you better.

No idea?

bigtuna wrote:

Not sure what Littletroll is looking for, but maybe you can help me with a clone for Bet25.dk? I think they also get their odds from Betradar.

To me it is very similar to Skybet. But sky bet clones have different odds. For example skybet.it has different odds from skybet.com and from skybet.de . Bet25.dk has skybet odds with less juice on live.

Not sure what Littletroll is looking for, but maybe you can help me with a clone for Bet25.dk? I think they also get their odds from Betradar.

Some bookies round their odds to the nearest 0 or 5, bookmakers may have clones only in certain markets, juice is bookmaker dependant etc. - it makes it sometimes difficult visually to find clone bookmakers, but if you have access to a spreadsheet you may try the following:

• Select a sport, pre-match or live.
• Select a market in this sport and copy-paste odds from all available bookmakers from a odds site into the spreadsheet.
• Calculate the probability of each outcome in order to remove juice.
• Calculate the difference between these probabilities and the probabilities of your bookmaker you're examining in additional columns.
• Repeat the process a number of times.

You may find consistently low differences between certain bookmakers and your bookmaker, which may indicate similar odds sources.

In your case you should find that Tipsport, among others, are resembling bet25.dk on prematch odds in certain sports.

Wolfie wrote:

bigtuna wrote:

Not sure what Littletroll is looking for, but maybe you can help me with a clone for Bet25.dk? I think they also get their odds from Betradar.

To me it is very similar to Skybet. But sky bet clones have different odds. For example skybet.it has different odds from skybet.com and from skybet.de . Bet25.dk has skybet odds with less juice on live.

Hmm, tried to compare tennis odds for a few hours yesterday, but they were very different (compared without juice).