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Orbit is a substitute and it will never be considered as Betfair. But on the other hand I m happy to have it.

Hi,

this is my first post - i am sadly forced to move all my Betfair action to Orbit Exchange, as Mollybet whitelabels do not offer the option to post (and show liquidity) on the exchange.

My main focus is on smaller tennis markets (pregame but also live), placing huge bets compared to the overall market turnover.
Sometimes, my statistical models suggest that the prices of European bookmakers are wrong, this can be up to 10-25%.
I am now wondering with all the bets voided on Orbit, all the money laundering accusations etc. what options i really have posting my bets on Orbit without having to be scared to get wrongly accused.

Happy about any advice you guys can give me.

Tennislove95 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:38 am

Hi,

this is my first post - i am sadly forced to move all my Betfair action to Orbit Exchange, as Mollybet whitelabels do not offer the option to post (and show liquidity) on the exchange.

My main focus is on smaller tennis markets (pregame but also live), placing huge bets compared to the overall market turnover.
Sometimes, my statistical models suggest that the prices of European bookmakers are wrong, this can be up to 10-25%.
I am now wondering with all the bets voided on Orbit, all the money laundering accusations etc. what options i really have posting my bets on Orbit without having to be scared to get wrongly accused.

Happy about any advice you guys can give me.

Hi TennisLover

I find what you said very interesting.
I myself at the moment , am looking into "suspicious" tennis matches on lower leagues (mostly UTR and itf) where a market is being hit heavily (sometimes getting demolished in just a few minutes) on betfair , in order to take advantage of the slow reaction most EU bookmakers will have to such action.Most of the times , a few minutes after what has happened in the exchange bet365 and other books block all odds or make that specific match disappear , but whoever is fast enough gets highly rewarded , and i have a 4-5 very recent examples to prove that point.
Now , this strategy that i am following seems very similar to yours.
Would you like to tell me more about your betting pattern?
Maybe we can exchange experiences on this matter.
If you do not wish to do it here in public , please let me know a way to contact you (email , telegram or whatever).
Best regards!
This strategic sounds a lot like

You fund passers are so funny pretending being clueless bettors.
Wait till you get caught by Orbit or Betfair and then post in the forum like virgin Marys under new profiles of course.

anyone with 403 orbit error since early morning?

Since yesterday actually. They started blocking IPs from certain, new countries. Poland & Cyprus are affected for sure.

Anyone with VPN that works? Tried my VPN, almost all countries available here, not a single one works, must be VPN itself blocked as well. Fuckers, I considered opening another orbit account with other broker but not sure If I want to do this anymore, if they act such way may be deliberately looking for every excuse available to avoid paying, not worth a risk being first one refused to be payed for some stupid reason,

Is there a good Orbit alternative available? Because I am running out of options: Betfair - can't use, Matchbook - can't use, Betdaq - can't use, Smarkets - can't use and now Orbit is playing tricks! Couple of other BF White Labels are gone as well.

Tough question. Did my own research and Im afraid we are done. You may try betnfair via brokerstorm, seen a post about it in a forum but it was half a year ago, PIWI but I wont touch it for sure as they allow themselves to forfeit balances if they dont like betting pattern, some people mentioned Winfair but didnt pay much attention about it yet, Quite few bad reviews about Brokerstorm anyway so thats if Im afraid.

Instead of experimenting with your money take the spot prices and live with them. If 1 Orbit account is not enough there is nothing stopping you having another.
Exposure (others call it leverage) is another excuse for someone to confiscate your money for a stupid reason.

Thanks Alex. PIWI is blocked in my country, so it looks like the only alternative might be that Winfair24.

Just to confirm - I learnt that this restriction that affects new countries comes from Betfair directly, so Orbit is not to blame here. They had no other option but to comply

Let us know please if you try Winfair.

junoreactor wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:21 pm

I have a question regarding the exposure limit.

Orbitx accounts usually have a 3k limit (BIA, AC), or even 1.5k limit (Brokerstorm), I trade offplay so I need at least 5k exposure. I emailed bet-football and they told me they is no limit at all on Orbitx (though the commission is 4%).

Did anyone try through this broker? I find it surprising they set no limit. Would be great to have a feedback from any user here.

I have been betting with them for a while. They used to allow increasing the exposure upon request. But now it’s even easier, they have implemented an automatic exposure limit updater. So Orbit accounts via Bet-Football shouldn’t have any issues with exposure since it updates according to the customer's balance every 5-10 seconds. As for BIA or AC I cannot tell for sure but they probably do have an exposure limit. Hope this helps.

what do you mean piwi forfeits balance if they dont like pattern

jagas wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:38 am

what do you mean piwi forfeits balance if they dont like pattern

Its not me its them. Posted a quote from their Terms and Conditions already:

"Please be informed that 2.5% commission tax will be applied to PiwiXchange winning bets and our upline requires daily checking of bets placed on their platform. Should there be fraudulent activity or irregular betting pattern found in your account; PIWI247 have the right to close your account and forfeit your balance.


I wonder if anyone bet with them who read their T&C. What that even means? The truth is that this statement can mean anything they want, they can call your betting pattern "irregular" and give no explanation at all to seize your balance for no reason. Sing is crap voiding bets if you bet steam but this is voiding, you may live with that but stating oficially that "we seize your balance if you dont bet a way we like" is insane. I dont know of course if such seizing balances happened before (or how often) but I dont wanna find out myself for sure. Correct me if Im wrong but I dont remember a bookie or broker who reserve a right to forfeit balances due to "irregular betting pattern". Voiding bets, closing accounts having deposit returned- yes but not confiscating money.