Other money beside arbing
- Thordin
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Probably those strategy analisis mentioned above got him...
I wouldnt do it to be honest... Having the stress every day that i will log in and not find my money there is too much...
People paid a lot for us to learn not to try it i believe.
Are the other exchanges not an option for good-income trading?
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Thats what i was thinking. But that guy that lost 50k was for sure smart enough to do this.ArberPro wrote: I don't think they can catch you if you have 2 accounts...buy another pc,get another internet provider.
Probably those strategy analisis mentioned above got him...
I wouldnt do it to be honest... Having the stress every day that i will log in and not find my money there is too much...
People paid a lot for us to learn not to try it i believe.
Are the other exchanges not an option for good-income trading?
- Yngwie
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1- As long as your limits are not collared to 1€, you can make value betting too.
2- No idea about that.
3- Some ex-arbers I know are doing this. Don't know much about these affiliate things but it's profitable as I heard.
4- Every Arber must develop his Pre-Gaming Trade skills. If you can predict which way odds will keep moving, you can increase your arbing profit. Even if you quit arbitrage trading, still you can make money by pregame trading.
5- If you have required skills for this, why not? Me, not, lol. I smile like a donkey when I get a good hand. I can't hide my feelings, lol. If you're a poker face, got balls of steel, nerves of steel, then you can consider.
6- That's the most easy one, lol. All you need to do is to track Greece League, specially Kalloni's games.
7- Handicapping is not for everyone. But if you're a skilled handicapper, why not?
My advice is, keep arbing and save the money you earn by arbing and with that money, buy Real Estates and rent them. Good luck!
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Arbing is not dying. It's just getting more challenging. As long as you can adept yourself to new conditions, you can keep arbing. The problem about humans is, we're effected too much by our brain, our prejudices and our point of view. When you think "Oh, Damn, My major books started to cut limits fast, Arbing is dead for me!" then it becomes a fact for you. Remember my "Retirement" thread I opened few months ago? I was so sure that I won't be able to make profits I did in the past once again. It happened exactly like this in january. My profits were decreased. However, I changed this in february. I focused on NBA (Specially Middles and some niche markets) and made even more profit then past. I had my best month of my career this month. If somebody would say me you will make your "Career High" in March 2014, I would call him crazy.ArberPro wrote: Still hearing about arbing dying ,i think arbing will never die maybe it will bring less money and become harder to make but for the topic sake lets say it will die in the futher so how can you make your living from professional gambling?
1. Value Betting - Is good because you need smaller stakes than arbing so you can use even limited accounts
2. Casino bonus hunting - it is very hard but wount die soon because of the people losing milions at online casinos
3. Affilate gambling (you can combine this with affilate abuse)-If you are arber you must know alot about gambling sites ,why not change sides and promote them to newbies (the best thing about affilate is that it doesnt take that much time).
4. Trading-An arber becoming a trader maybe is the next big thing.The best thing about trading you only need one account (If you know trading you're set for life,ofc if you progress in it ).
5. Poker Player- I know some people how make more from poker than me arbing and it reseambles alot (8 hours in front of the computer,working beating your brains out) but it is better because you don't need friends.
6. Match fixing - I wouldn't get it to that there are more safer and smarter ways to make money
7. Tipsers-selling tips or maybe buying from good tipsers ( i think this is very risky because the tipser may be getting sloppy watch Two for the Money to see what i mean)
Feel free too add more ways.
And for those how will say that the market in that thing saturated.
There is enough room for you and if not you must make room.
1- As long as your limits are not collared to 1€, you can make value betting too.
2- No idea about that.
3- Some ex-arbers I know are doing this. Don't know much about these affiliate things but it's profitable as I heard.
4- Every Arber must develop his Pre-Gaming Trade skills. If you can predict which way odds will keep moving, you can increase your arbing profit. Even if you quit arbitrage trading, still you can make money by pregame trading.
5- If you have required skills for this, why not? Me, not, lol. I smile like a donkey when I get a good hand. I can't hide my feelings, lol. If you're a poker face, got balls of steel, nerves of steel, then you can consider.
6- That's the most easy one, lol. All you need to do is to track Greece League, specially Kalloni's games.
7- Handicapping is not for everyone. But if you're a skilled handicapper, why not?
My advice is, keep arbing and save the money you earn by arbing and with that money, buy Real Estates and rent them. Good luck!
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''buy Real Estates and rent them''
It depends on where you come from.
It depends on where you come from.
- fnatic91
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Further more , believe me....i am referring to live arbing , where arbers are more difficult to be tracked by bookies compared to pre -match !!
Re: Other money beside arbing
How is arbing not dying when you get limited within 2 days (at least my case) ?? Do you have nerves to open new accounts every 2 days ? Do you have that many friends ? I don't think so !Yngwie/Sawyer wrote:Arbing is not dying. It's just getting more challenging. As long as you can adept yourself to new conditions, you can keep arbing. The problem about humans is, we're effected too much by our brain, our prejudices and our point of view. When you think "Oh, Damn, My major books started to cut limits fast, Arbing is dead for me!" then it becomes a fact for you. Remember my "Retirement" thread I opened few months ago? I was so sure that I won't be able to make profits I did in the past once again. It happened exactly like this in january. My profits were decreased. However, I changed this in february. I focused on NBA (Specially Middles and some niche markets) and made even more profit then past. I had my best month of my career this month. If somebody would say me you will make your "Career High" in March 2014, I would call him crazy.ArberPro wrote: Still hearing about arbing dying ,i think arbing will never die maybe it will bring less money and become harder to make but for the topic sake lets say it will die in the futher so how can you make your living from professional gambling?
1. Value Betting - Is good because you need smaller stakes than arbing so you can use even limited accounts
2. Casino bonus hunting - it is very hard but wount die soon because of the people losing milions at online casinos
3. Affilate gambling (you can combine this with affilate abuse)-If you are arber you must know alot about gambling sites ,why not change sides and promote them to newbies (the best thing about affilate is that it doesnt take that much time).
4. Trading-An arber becoming a trader maybe is the next big thing.The best thing about trading you only need one account (If you know trading you're set for life,ofc if you progress in it ).
5. Poker Player- I know some people how make more from poker than me arbing and it reseambles alot (8 hours in front of the computer,working beating your brains out) but it is better because you don't need friends.
6. Match fixing - I wouldn't get it to that there are more safer and smarter ways to make money
7. Tipsers-selling tips or maybe buying from good tipsers ( i think this is very risky because the tipser may be getting sloppy watch Two for the Money to see what i mean)
Feel free too add more ways.
And for those how will say that the market in that thing saturated.
There is enough room for you and if not you must make room.
1- As long as your limits are not collared to 1€, you can make value betting too.
2- No idea about that.
3- Some ex-arbers I know are doing this. Don't know much about these affiliate things but it's profitable as I heard.
4- Every Arber must develop his Pre-Gaming Trade skills. If you can predict which way odds will keep moving, you can increase your arbing profit. Even if you quit arbitrage trading, still you can make money by pregame trading.
5- If you have required skills for this, why not? Me, not, lol. I smile like a donkey when I get a good hand. I can't hide my feelings, lol. If you're a poker face, got balls of steel, nerves of steel, then you can consider.
6- That's the most easy one, lol. All you need to do is to track Greece League, specially Kalloni's games.
7- Handicapping is not for everyone. But if you're a skilled handicapper, why not?
My advice is, keep arbing and save the money you earn by arbing and with that money, buy Real Estates and rent them. Good luck!
Further more , believe me....i am referring to live arbing , where arbers are more difficult to be tracked by bookies compared to pre -match !!
- Yngwie
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Re: Other money beside arbing
Frnatic,
You're not familiar with other forms of arbing I guess..like live arbing. Live Arbing may be the future of arbing but I won't give any other details about this subject.
You're not familiar with other forms of arbing I guess..like live arbing. Live Arbing may be the future of arbing but I won't give any other details about this subject.
- Thordin
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I don't know if it will stay like this, but at this pace I can keep up for quite a long time..
I understand you have less bookies than me, try and manage their lifetime better if you are afraid you will run out of friends.
Yngqie, I believe fnatic is live arbing as he said before.
Re: Other money beside arbing
I lose 2-3 books during a weekend, from a single friend, the rest last for the week and maybe next weekend too. So that's 2 weeks past with 1 friend, then i move on.fnatic91 wrote:How is arbing not dying when you get limited within 2 days (at least my case) ?? Do you have nerves to open new accounts every 2 days ? Do you have that many friends ? I don't think so !Yngwie/Sawyer wrote:Arbing is not dying. It's just getting more challenging. As long as you can adept yourself to new conditions, you can keep arbing. The problem about humans is, we're effected too much by our brain, our prejudices and our point of view. When you think "Oh, Damn, My major books started to cut limits fast, Arbing is dead for me!" then it becomes a fact for you. Remember my "Retirement" thread I opened few months ago? I was so sure that I won't be able to make profits I did in the past once again. It happened exactly like this in january. My profits were decreased. However, I changed this in february. I focused on NBA (Specially Middles and some niche markets) and made even more profit then past. I had my best month of my career this month. If somebody would say me you will make your "Career High" in March 2014, I would call him crazy.ArberPro wrote: Still hearing about arbing dying ,i think arbing will never die maybe it will bring less money and become harder to make but for the topic sake lets say it will die in the futher so how can you make your living from professional gambling?
1. Value Betting - Is good because you need smaller stakes than arbing so you can use even limited accounts
2. Casino bonus hunting - it is very hard but wount die soon because of the people losing milions at online casinos
3. Affilate gambling (you can combine this with affilate abuse)-If you are arber you must know alot about gambling sites ,why not change sides and promote them to newbies (the best thing about affilate is that it doesnt take that much time).
4. Trading-An arber becoming a trader maybe is the next big thing.The best thing about trading you only need one account (If you know trading you're set for life,ofc if you progress in it ).
5. Poker Player- I know some people how make more from poker than me arbing and it reseambles alot (8 hours in front of the computer,working beating your brains out) but it is better because you don't need friends.
6. Match fixing - I wouldn't get it to that there are more safer and smarter ways to make money
7. Tipsers-selling tips or maybe buying from good tipsers ( i think this is very risky because the tipser may be getting sloppy watch Two for the Money to see what i mean)
Feel free too add more ways.
And for those how will say that the market in that thing saturated.
There is enough room for you and if not you must make room.
1- As long as your limits are not collared to 1€, you can make value betting too.
2- No idea about that.
3- Some ex-arbers I know are doing this. Don't know much about these affiliate things but it's profitable as I heard.
4- Every Arber must develop his Pre-Gaming Trade skills. If you can predict which way odds will keep moving, you can increase your arbing profit. Even if you quit arbitrage trading, still you can make money by pregame trading.
5- If you have required skills for this, why not? Me, not, lol. I smile like a donkey when I get a good hand. I can't hide my feelings, lol. If you're a poker face, got balls of steel, nerves of steel, then you can consider.
6- That's the most easy one, lol. All you need to do is to track Greece League, specially Kalloni's games.
7- Handicapping is not for everyone. But if you're a skilled handicapper, why not?
My advice is, keep arbing and save the money you earn by arbing and with that money, buy Real Estates and rent them. Good luck!
Further more , believe me....i am referring to live arbing , where arbers are more difficult to be tracked by bookies compared to pre -match !!
I don't know if it will stay like this, but at this pace I can keep up for quite a long time..
I understand you have less bookies than me, try and manage their lifetime better if you are afraid you will run out of friends.
Yngqie, I believe fnatic is live arbing as he said before.
- Yngwie
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Re: Other money beside arbing
Then I suggest him to focus more on live arbing instead of grumbling about limits. Many books cut your limits pregame but let you bet with good amounts in live.Thordin wrote: Yngqie, I believe fnatic is live arbing as he said before.
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really thats interesting didnt realize it would be that slavery to do
i am arbitrage
- cortomaltese
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Yngwie , fnatic was referring to live arbing when complainted about limits and acc closings every second day , and i can confirm that many of my bookies last this much , even less some times and i am doing exlusively live arbing!Yngwie/Sawyer wrote:Then I suggest him to focus more on live arbing instead of grumbling about limits. Many books cut your limits pregame but let you bet with good amounts in live.Thordin wrote: Yngqie, I believe fnatic is live arbing as he said before.
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Arbing is addicting. It's like a kind of drug. The feeling of making money via arbitrage trading (you don't care who wins) is so sweet. But there's something even worse. Even more adrenalin rush then betting; "Middles!"
Specially when you got Over 199 and Under 200 and clock is 00:02, score is 90-109 and Lebron is coming to free throw line, lol.
As I said, arbing is addicting. I believe you will always find a way to keep yourself in this business. All accounts limited? Well, you can find new books maybe? Even live arbing may extend your arbing career, giving you a new dimension in arbing. I have many accounts limited to 1€ for pregame wagers but my live bet limit is quite good.
It's impossible to predict the future. We can't know what will happen after 4-5 years. Maybe live arbing will be no longer profitable in future. Maybe majority of soft books will switch to a special system. I wish we could arb forever but we don't know if it's possible. Therefore, my advice is, make all profit you can make. Even if your arbitrage career ends one day, you can always switch to another profession with wealth you accumulated. If you can beat the system (beating the books), then it means you're a wise guy. You have a good chance to be succesful in another profession.
Happy Arbing!
Specially when you got Over 199 and Under 200 and clock is 00:02, score is 90-109 and Lebron is coming to free throw line, lol.
As I said, arbing is addicting. I believe you will always find a way to keep yourself in this business. All accounts limited? Well, you can find new books maybe? Even live arbing may extend your arbing career, giving you a new dimension in arbing. I have many accounts limited to 1€ for pregame wagers but my live bet limit is quite good.
It's impossible to predict the future. We can't know what will happen after 4-5 years. Maybe live arbing will be no longer profitable in future. Maybe majority of soft books will switch to a special system. I wish we could arb forever but we don't know if it's possible. Therefore, my advice is, make all profit you can make. Even if your arbitrage career ends one day, you can always switch to another profession with wealth you accumulated. If you can beat the system (beating the books), then it means you're a wise guy. You have a good chance to be succesful in another profession.
Happy Arbing!
- fnatic91
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I stopped replying cause i had the impression that sawyer was not even reading what i was writing.
Re: Other money beside arbing
yes i was referring to live arbing with my complaint , i clearly mentioned live arbing in my comment :cortomaltese wrote:Yngwie , fnatic was referring to live arbing when complainted about limits and acc closings every second day , and i can confirm that many of my bookies last this much , even less some times and i am doing exlusively live arbing!Yngwie/Sawyer wrote:Then I suggest him to focus more on live arbing instead of grumbling about limits. Many books cut your limits pregame but let you bet with good amounts in live.Thordin wrote: Yngqie, I believe fnatic is live arbing as he said before.
and sawyer was making comments like : "try other forms like live arbing , Then I suggest him to focus more on live arbing instead of grumbling about limits. Many books cut your limits pregame but let you bet with good amounts in live. "How is arbing not dying when you get limited within 2 days (at least my case) ?? Do you have nerves to open new accounts every 2 days ? Do you have that many friends ? I don't think so !
Further more , believe me....i am referring to live arbing , where arbers are more difficult to be tracked by bookies compared to pre -match !!
I stopped replying cause i had the impression that sawyer was not even reading what i was writing.
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- fnatic91
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I said earlier that having a local bookmaker is not skill but just luck.If you are referring to me about skills , i don't have to prove you anything , but if you wanna bet, i will show you screenshots where i have combined asian and euro handicaps with a profit smth like 20%skill levels and also geography (local bookmakers)
are a factor but some arbers are just more skillful although some on the forum aren't willing to accept this,
- fnatic91
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I didn't want to be rude , just thought you were referring to me.I have read that you are arbing in play too , i agree that in play arbing requires skills , but i don't think the same about pre match.Of course that not all are the same level , someone is better than somebody else , but in general i don't think that pre match arbing requires science rocket. GL !
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