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Re: Pinnacle

Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:38 am

I see they have now decided to log users out after every 15 mins of no activity, which is quite frankly anal lol
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:05 am

Just download some kind of auto-refresh extension. But remember to not leave it on deposit page right after you have deposited via Skr 1-Tap :D
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Re: Pinnacle

Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:59 pm

Anyone else got voided bets on Finnish Veikkausliga match RoPS Rovaniemi  vs. Jaro corners?
Dear Customer,

[Soccer] [Live Finland - Veikkausliiga Corners] [Match] [RoPS Rovaniemi (Corners) vs. Jaro (Corners)]. The event has been re-graded from [Score 8-7] to [Score 9-7] due to the following reason: [Official site had wrong result]. Your bet on [Total] with ticket-ID: [4974XXXX] has been affected. Sorry for the inconvenience.
The bets were on o12,5 and o13,5 corners. ~5% arbs
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:31 am

yeah

[Soccer] [Live Finland - Veikkausliiga Corners] [Match] RoPS Rovaniemi (Corners) vs Jaro (Corners). Your bet with ticket-ID: 497482310, 497482391, 497483190 has been voided. All bets taken on [Total] from 9/10/2015 9:46:33 AM to 9/10/2015 9:57:51 AM have been voided due to the following reason: [The bet was offered with an incorrect line.] The correct information should be Score 6-5 instead of Score 5-5. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I am pretty sure they are lying.
The arb was too big between Pinny and Bet365 (too bad that bet365 dont show the current score at betslip. it would be a proof) , so i made sure to check the corners score.
Both pinny and bet365 had score 5-5 when i placed the arbs , so these morons have suffered many losses and now they void it knowing that we can't verify the score.
Any site where we can see the corners minutes ?

Soccerway says 8-7 , not 9-7 as pinny
http://int.soccerway.com/matches/2015/09/10/finland/veikkausliiga/rops-rovaniemi/ff-jaro-js-pietarsaari--jakobstad/2007028/?ICID=PL_MS_05

Any more reliable site ?
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:37 am

http://www.veikkausliiga.com/tilastot/spljp15/ottelut/315995/seuranta/

They gave me 3 different explanations, why the bets were cancelled.
First one that I already mentioned.
Then when I asked to explain more specific, they answered me this:
Dear Client,

If a wager is placed on Corner Kicks while the game is in a danger zone, the wager will be declared as "waiting".

Note that a wager placed during a danger zone is not automatically rejected. Corner Kick wagers will only be rejected if a corner kick is awarded.
If the danger zone ends without a Corner Kick (including with a goal or red card) the wager is accepted. 

Once the danger zone is released, wagers are either accepted and displayed on your pending wager report or rejected.
Rejected wagers are displayed on your rejected live wagers report.

For more information regarding danger zone please go to our Soccer rules section of the Pinnacle Sports website.


10:06:29 AM Start Danger 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487456-1 10:06:30 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487460-1 10:06:33 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487481-1 10:06:44 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487484-1 10:06:45 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487503-1 10:06:54 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487504-1 10:06:54 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487508-1 10:06:55 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487509-1 10:06:55 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487515-1 10:06:56 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487516-1 10:06:57 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487525-1 10:07:01 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487529-1 10:07:02 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487533-1 10:07:07 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487534-1 10:07:07 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487544-1 10:07:12 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
    497487545-1 10:07:12 AM Rejected 5 - 6 0 - 0
10:07:15 AM Game Offline 5 - 6 0 - 0
10:07:48 AM Goal RoPS Rovaniemi (Corners) 6 6 - 6 0 - 0
10:07:49 AM End Danger 6 - 6 0 - 0
And then this:
Dear Client,

Please refer to our Soccer LIVE rule number 9:

When wagering on a live Soccer event, the current score and red card information is considered part of the line. If this information is incorrect, the line is deemed to be incorrect. Any other information, such as timers, is displayed for information purposes only. It is the responsibility of the client to verify that such details are accurate before placing their bets.

Since the current score on corners was not correct when the wagers was placed therefore your wagers was cancelled.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused and appreciate your understanding.

Here is the link to the official site showing the corners.
 
http://www.veikkausliiga.com/tilastot/spljp15/ottelut/315995/seuranta/
Now I asked them, why do they give me 3 different explanations in this matter. They forwarded my message to some kind of further investigation.
How big was your loss?
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:51 am

I lost 300 EUR.

I am 100% sure that Bet365 had it also 5-5 ( i checked it cause the arb was big), so either pinny and b365 are both wrong , or they both are right.

who cares if it was 8-7 or 9-7 (they are both over 13.5 corners) ?  but they claim that the corner numbers was 6-5 (not 5-5) when we arbers have placed the bets.Now , where we can check the corners minutes ?

I don't see why they are referring you to danger zone rule , your bet was already confirmed and i was watching the stream ( the 11th corner was made after 6-7 minutes)
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:07 am

Only one of them is right. Will have to talk to b365 to also refund bets.
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:11 am

You will get a limit by bet365 , i would not talk to them.
We better talk to Pinny since they are the ones who welcome arbers.
If pinny is right (corners 6-5) , then better to accept the losses and go on.Better not to talk with b365
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:33 am

fnatic91 wrote: You will get a limit by bet365 , i would not talk to them.
We better talk to Pinny since they are the ones who welcome arbers.
If pinny is right (corners 6-5) , then better to accept the losses and go on.Better not to talk with b365
I already got this account limited right before I made those bets. Made a nice 100eur cash-in on anohter Finnish corners match that was probably the biggest mistake.
I talked to them and they of course are referring to the end result that speaks for itself.
Do you have any screenshots from that match from b365?
If you have any further information from pinny, please send me a pm.
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:43 am

The other match was HJK ? damn , i got my limits halved and now i am flagged due to these arbs.

No ,  i don't have screenshots , i can't make screenshots for all arbs i place.

I will let you know if anything changes.
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:46 am

Yep, the same match.
I don't even bother. This account lasted for more than a weekend that's already a great result for me :)
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:04 am

what the fuck are you talking about?? one betradar(or whatever provider they use) employer fucked it all up and missed a live corner they both had wrong line so both would void the bet if 365 didn't doesn't mean that pinnacle have to honor the bets also.... Pinnacle is the most fair book out there...
who cares if it was 8-7 or 9-7 (they are both over 13.5 corners) ?  but they claim that the corner numbers was 6-5 (not 5-5) when we arbers have placed the bets.Now , where we can check the corners minutes ?
you are not serious right?
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:21 am

Easy man , just be more careful when you read.
[Soccer] [Live Finland - Veikkausliiga Corners] [Match] [RoPS Rovaniemi (Corners) vs. Jaro (Corners)]. The event has been re-graded from [Score 8-7] to [Score 9-7] due to the following reason: [Official site had wrong result]. Your bet on [Total] with ticket-ID: [4974XXXX] has been affected. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Rudolpho is told that the score has been re-graded from 8-7 to 9-7 , so who the fuk cares when both are over 13.5 ? The only what matters is the current score when the bets were placed
If pinny is right (corners 6-5) , then better to accept the losses and go on
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:26 am

well i did read what he said noone cares even pinnacle wouldn't if the wrong number of corners was after the bet was placed but what if they missed the corner when you played the particular line? It has happen a few times and pinnacle always void it even if it is not against them you are just unlucky this time. Shit happens move on... Ofc 365 should also void it but you know softbooks whatever is theirs is theirs whatever is yours depends
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Re: Pinnacle

Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:40 am

i clearly have said that if Pinny has missed 1 corner , then it clearly should be voided by pinny

We were just saying that both Pinny and b365 had the same number of corners (5-5) , and in this case both bookies are both either wrong or right regarding the number of corners.

if they use the same provider , then that's the reason why they are both missing the corner.

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