Arbusers

caraPan wrote:

anormal1992 wrote:

lukaszs wrote: I was wondering about one thing. What pinnacle would do If I did trade between pinnacle and pinnalce. Imagine the situation when you've got knowledge (or feeleing) the odds must go down. And you put max bet one side and after odd drop you will take second side. Do they allow  this kind of bets when you do it constantly?

I suppose they allow but anyway better being a good handiccaper  then losing the edge you may find against pinnacle, and i suppose the odds will not drop as much as they can create an arb....you should wait until a lot og other players bet the same way as you.

What if we organizate ourselves to do this?

The easy way you can "abuse" them in this way is to bet max on secondary sports such as table tennis/ biathlon etc in such cases they usually change odds significantly and then you can take the second bet for a 1-3% arb. But the limits in such sports are low (sometimes under 100 eur) and most of the times it still needs more than one max bet to move the odds down. There could our "syndicate" begin

Not worth to piss them off is it. You can count the amount of decent bookies on one hand and they are one of them.


Anyhow if you know which way the odds are going to go, you would be better off trading that on an exchange if it is available.

BOOYAKA wrote: Not worth to piss them off is it. You can count the amount of decent bookies on one hand and they are one of them.


Anyhow if you know which way the odds are going to go, you would be better off trading that on an exchange if it is available.

The problem is that "these" markets are usually available only in Pinnacle. I don't want to piss them off so I ask you guys first

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lukaszs wrote: What pinnacle would do If I did trade between pinnacle and pinnalce.
Do they allow  this kind of bets when you do it constantly?

They would do nothing. They do allow this kind of bets.

Arbusers wrote:

lukaszs wrote: What pinnacle would do If I did trade between pinnacle and pinnalce.
Do they allow  this kind of bets when you do it constantly?

They would do nothing. They do allow this kind of bets.

cause they just "sell" their odds in different prices,,
is this correct chief?

sikok68 wrote:

Arbusers wrote:

lukaszs wrote: What pinnacle would do If I did trade between pinnacle and pinnalce.
Do they allow  this kind of bets when you do it constantly?

They would do nothing. They do allow this kind of bets.

cause they just "sell" their odds in different prices,,
is this correct chief?

Because Pinnacle is like an "exchange" with big liquidity and they just take the juice from every bet. The house never loses,thats why the dont care....but if you do this tricks to earn money from "........." they may shoot an email to make some things more clear

Pinnacle does not sell bets, they take positions instead.
Also watch out for the Q&A on Twitter, you might want to read some interesting information about them.

I think that Pinnacle are fixing the matches and on those matches they giving high odds and deliberately making arbs.
How is that that I am in minus with them fom 1 january 15000 euros!
I dont see any other explenation!

tarzan wrote: I think that Pinnacle are fixing the matches and on those matches they giving high odds and deliberately making arbs.
How is that that I am in minus with them fom 1 january 15000 euros!
I dont see any other explenation!

Probably not true. They can't fix 50-60 games per week. Maybe they have good info or analysis and therefore they are able to take position with good possibilities to win against players.
Pinnacle is not balancing bets in many games/markets. Even their traders and managers accept this openly. Fixxing games to that extend is not possible at all.

And why sharp-arbs livetime is so small??

Are sharpbookies checking their odds and after a move they check pinnacle, if it is an arb they adjust?? Could be that way??

If any times I trade between SBO and Pinny in live, most of the time; I won in SBO, pinnacle traders must be the best in the world...
amazing

Yesterday there was a match beetween Jenkins J. - Wang J. The odds was half an hour before the match 2,5 - 1,5. And then the pinnacle reverse the odds. All asians and some caribean bookies has follow. Europian bookies was in deep sleep. Of course Jenkis winn without a problem!

tarzan wrote: Yesterday there was a match beetween Jenkins J. - Wang J. The odds was half an hour before the match 2,5 - 1,5. And then the pinnacle reverse the odds. All asians and some caribean bookies has follow. Europian bookies was in deep sleep. Of course Jenkis winn without a problem!

I watched it, crazy

I am arbing for two years and last month was my sucsesful month because I change the strategie.
When I have a arb beetween Pinnacle and Europian bookies I am not dividing the winn beetween two bookies.
Now if I winn on the pinnacle side I got 0% profit but if I winn by Europian bookies its much more!
My profits are more then double in January when I compare to previous months!

I do the same tarzan; and what is more, many times I put smaller stakes and I don't bet in sharps. (Values)

caraPan wrote: I do the same tarzan; and what is more, many times I put smaller stakes and I don't bet in sharps. (Values)

You can also cover it later, i think more often than not odds follow the same trend and move in our favour. For example i did this yesterday early on that Jenkins match, taking it at 3.00 and you've seen what happened next...