I'm curious, in case someone is restricted by PIWI (who are hiding behind Upline's decision), what about the status of her/his Pinny's original account? I guess the original Pinnacle itself didn't restrict her/his exact same market actions.
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I'm curious, in case someone is restricted by PIWI (who are hiding behind Upline's decision), what about the status of her/his Pinny's original account? I guess the original Pinnacle itself didn't restrict her/his exact same market actions.
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I'm curious, in case someone is restricted by PIWI (who are hiding behind Upline's decision), what about the status of her/his Pinny's original account? I guess the original Pinnacle itself didn't restrict her/his exact same market actions.
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Isn't pinnacle a sharp bookmaker? Technically, they do not limit long-term winners.
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They do via brokers & pinnacle solution
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I've been using PIWI for sports betting and haven't experienced this so far. It might be because I don't really win much per say and even if I win, I only get around 1000-2000 euros max and re-stake them for another matchMorrisette David wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:15 pmI think the Pinny's original account limit won't be affected.
That's why we also need to consider to look for a broker/service who don't put limitations on the account.
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If any of you guys who are getting limited from Piwi247, is referred by arbusers, then drop me a pm and I will gladly have a look with asianconnect to see what is wrong with your account.
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Is PIWI247 under asianconnect or related to asianconnect?arbusers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:23 pmIf any of you guys who are getting limited from Piwi247, is referred by arbusers, then drop me a pm and I will gladly have a look with asianconnect to see what is wrong with your account.
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Hi guys, I just realised that my leverage at PIWI247 exchange has risen from about 10:1 to a whopping 100:1 (actually, even about 103:1). Please see the screenshots below.
At first, this is positive, as they are magnifying my liquidity to nearly infinity, even in extremely illiquid markets. But let me explain why I think this should actually let the alarm bells ring:
1) If I were a losing customer, I would understand that they want to take a majority of my bets at betfair, and in addition charge me commission. BUT I AM NOT A LOSER. In fact, I have won a 5-digit amount during the last year or so. If this continues (of course, some luck associated with this result so far), they are essentially taking the other side of my winning bets (99 % of it, to be precise)
2) They are offering huge deposit bonuses for new customers (500 EUR) and are running a new affiliate campaign to attract new players.
3) With this kind of liquidity providing, there is a high risk that somebody abuses this (I do not want to explain this further here, because I think most people can figure this out for themselves). By the way, this is not my business model, just to make this clear.
So my question is: should we be worried about asianconnect and/or PIWI247? For me, this looks a bit like they have liquidity problems and trying to solve these problems by 1) attracting new customers aggressively and 2) going "all in" as they are essentially taking all bets by themselves.
Just to make clear what the leverage 1:100 means: I put a limit order on the PIWI247 exchange for, e.g. 100 EUR to lay, but only 1 EUR goes to betfair. If this 1 EUR bet is matched, PIWI247 shows my whole bet as matched (and they are taking the remaining 99 EUR). This does not sound like a good idea to me.
At first, this is positive, as they are magnifying my liquidity to nearly infinity, even in extremely illiquid markets. But let me explain why I think this should actually let the alarm bells ring:
1) If I were a losing customer, I would understand that they want to take a majority of my bets at betfair, and in addition charge me commission. BUT I AM NOT A LOSER. In fact, I have won a 5-digit amount during the last year or so. If this continues (of course, some luck associated with this result so far), they are essentially taking the other side of my winning bets (99 % of it, to be precise)
2) They are offering huge deposit bonuses for new customers (500 EUR) and are running a new affiliate campaign to attract new players.
3) With this kind of liquidity providing, there is a high risk that somebody abuses this (I do not want to explain this further here, because I think most people can figure this out for themselves). By the way, this is not my business model, just to make this clear.
So my question is: should we be worried about asianconnect and/or PIWI247? For me, this looks a bit like they have liquidity problems and trying to solve these problems by 1) attracting new customers aggressively and 2) going "all in" as they are essentially taking all bets by themselves.
Just to make clear what the leverage 1:100 means: I put a limit order on the PIWI247 exchange for, e.g. 100 EUR to lay, but only 1 EUR goes to betfair. If this 1 EUR bet is matched, PIWI247 shows my whole bet as matched (and they are taking the remaining 99 EUR). This does not sound like a good idea to me.
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The did it for me too. Mine was 5x, now it's 10x.tomtom70 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:58 pmHi guys, I just realised that my leverage at PIWI247 exchange has risen from about 10:1 to a whopping 100:1 (actually, even about 103:1). Please see the screenshots below.
At first, this is positive, as they are magnifying my liquidity to nearly infinity, even in extremely illiquid markets. But let me explain why I think this should actually let the alarm bells ring:
1) If I were a losing customer, I would understand that they want to take a majority of my bets at betfair, and in addition charge me commission. BUT I AM NOT A LOSER. In fact, I have won a 5-digit amount during the last year or so. If this continues (of course, some luck associated with this result so far), they are essentially taking the other side of my winning bets (99 % of it, to be precise)
2) They are offering huge deposit bonuses for new customers (500 EUR) and are running a new affiliate campaign to attract new players.
3) With this kind of liquidity providing, there is a high risk that somebody abuses this (I do not want to explain this further here, because I think most people can figure this out for themselves). By the way, this is not my business model, just to make this clear.
So my question is: should we be worried about asianconnect and/or PIWI247? For me, this looks a bit like they have liquidity problems and trying to solve these problems by 1) attracting new customers aggressively and 2) going "all in" as they are essentially taking all bets by themselves.
Just to make clear what the leverage 1:100 means: I put a limit order on the PIWI247 exchange for, e.g. 100 EUR to lay, but only 1 EUR goes to betfair. If this 1 EUR bet is matched, PIWI247 shows my whole bet as matched (and they are taking the remaining 99 EUR). This does not sound like a good idea to me.
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Update?tomtom70 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:58 pmHi guys, I just realised that my leverage at PIWI247 exchange has risen from about 10:1 to a whopping 100:1 (actually, even about 103:1). Please see the screenshots below.
At first, this is positive, as they are magnifying my liquidity to nearly infinity, even in extremely illiquid markets. But let me explain why I think this should actually let the alarm bells ring:
1) If I were a losing customer, I would understand that they want to take a majority of my bets at betfair, and in addition charge me commission. BUT I AM NOT A LOSER. In fact, I have won a 5-digit amount during the last year or so. If this continues (of course, some luck associated with this result so far), they are essentially taking the other side of my winning bets (99 % of it, to be precise)
2) They are offering huge deposit bonuses for new customers (500 EUR) and are running a new affiliate campaign to attract new players.
3) With this kind of liquidity providing, there is a high risk that somebody abuses this (I do not want to explain this further here, because I think most people can figure this out for themselves). By the way, this is not my business model, just to make this clear.
So my question is: should we be worried about asianconnect and/or PIWI247? For me, this looks a bit like they have liquidity problems and trying to solve these problems by 1) attracting new customers aggressively and 2) going "all in" as they are essentially taking all bets by themselves.
Just to make clear what the leverage 1:100 means: I put a limit order on the PIWI247 exchange for, e.g. 100 EUR to lay, but only 1 EUR goes to betfair. If this 1 EUR bet is matched, PIWI247 shows my whole bet as matched (and they are taking the remaining 99 EUR). This does not sound like a good idea to me.
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I thought it worths mentioning that Piwi's services are going down the hill lately. We noticed a growing number of complaints, so far by people who are not referred by arbusers (wondering why).
These complaints are about limitations to 1 euro per bet, and (even worse) for unauthorised bets. It wasn't possible for us to intervene and check the validity of the complaints, as these people are not referred by arbusers.
These complaints are about limitations to 1 euro per bet, and (even worse) for unauthorised bets. It wasn't possible for us to intervene and check the validity of the complaints, as these people are not referred by arbusers.
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Offering x10 liquidity of course they must had gotten killed by sharp bettors and now limiting everyone to 1e seems to be the only way for them to stay in business.
In any case their reputation has gone down the hill as well as their services so there shouldn't be getting any new customers thankfuly.
By the way , regardless if you are using their services directly from piwi247 or via some broker, the brutal treatment appears to be similar.
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Was the logical path for them to take honestly.arbusers wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:40 amI thought it worths mentioning that Piwi's services are going down the hill lately. We noticed a growing number of complaints, so far by people who are not referred by arbusers (wondering why).
These complaints are about limitations to 1 euro per bet, and (even worse) for unauthorised bets. It wasn't possible for us to intervene and check the validity of the complaints, as these people are not referred by arbusers.
Offering x10 liquidity of course they must had gotten killed by sharp bettors and now limiting everyone to 1e seems to be the only way for them to stay in business.
In any case their reputation has gone down the hill as well as their services so there shouldn't be getting any new customers thankfuly.
By the way , regardless if you are using their services directly from piwi247 or via some broker, the brutal treatment appears to be similar.
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Have they ever explained logically why they do not have 2FA for Login?arbusers wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:40 amI thought it worths mentioning that Piwi's services are going down the hill lately. We noticed a growing number of complaints, so far by people who are not referred by arbusers (wondering why).
These complaints are about limitations to 1 euro per bet, and (even worse) for unauthorised bets. It wasn't possible for us to intervene and check the validity of the complaints, as these people are not referred by arbusers.
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