I had the chance to speak with an industry insider the other day. Don't ask for the name or his position in the industry. The guy is very deep.
Among other things he told me the following. Bookmakers are now rating players starting from registration. Every player is getting a risk score, something similar to the credit score that banks give to their clients. The procedure is fully automated and that is why many players find their accounts limited or blocked even before bet #1. Even if your account is not flagged for any reason, the procedure is dynamic and it follows your account at any step you take, adding or extracting points to your score. As we all know the bets that we place are more than enough to flag us as arbers or dangerous players. Our guy revealed that even the pages of specific markets that we visit within the bookmaker is contributing to our score. For example, if you go to the page where French league 2 is displayed, and if there is an arb there during the time of your visit, this is enough to contribute to your score, even if you don't place any bet. The bookmaker assumes that you were ready to place a sharp bet, but you found a better price somewhere else. A visit in their casino website would contribute positively to your score, not to mention if you play some baccarat there. Somewhere along the (short) way, all available to the bookmakers data bases will contribute to the profiling of the player and this leaves space for exchange of information among bookmakers. Manual work looking for information from other sources, comes at the end of the account life span when bookmaker has to pay winnings. Many bookmakers claim their screening of each player is building the full profile before bet #3.
A limited number of bookmakers with limited resources or/and lack of market knowledge or/and will to scam players, will not pay attention to this kind of screening and might use more traditional ways to reduce risks, before taking more aggressive measures against players.
Player's risk score starting from account registration
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That is extremely interesting, Arbusers. Thank you.
Do you happen to know exactly how widespread this technique currently is?
Do you happen to know exactly how widespread this technique currently is?
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Thanks Arbusers for these valuable informations!I am thirsty for more!
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Very widespread. I would consider almost all (non Mickey Mouse) UK, Malta and Gibraltar books to act like this, altering slightly their screening criteria to fit in the rest of their business.barbero wrote: Do you happen to know exactly how widespread this technique currently is?
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that sounds like a system that will produce a lot of false positives
will see, i didn't notice this yet in action
will see, i didn't notice this yet in action
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Whatever they do one thing's for sure: they DO produce a lot of false positives. If you check different sport betting forums, mostly for mugs, ppl are fuming about it while in the past even if sbd had mentioned it (very rarely) nobody would have followed. It basically didn't refer to them. Now they even know who Jimmy Justice is...my_username wrote: that sounds like a system that will produce a lot of false positives
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It came to my attention that many bookmakers are checking the age of your email address. A recently created mailbox will come with a hard KYC process. Then, with the help of the Big Data companies, they check social networks profiles paired with this mail. If there are no SN profiles connected with this email, further requests will be asked. Each mail has a score, and this score adds up to your overall score the bookmaker keeps for you.
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that's very interesting, thanks.
(now i understand why WHill limited my stakes to 0 after only 3 small bets)
(now i understand why WHill limited my stakes to 0 after only 3 small bets)
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soon in UK if you are behind on your gas or water bill your account starts at 25% and no inplay uzbek basketball bets until you have paid your debts