Arbusers

We are pleased to announce the release of Pinnacle Odds Dropper v0.70, an update that brings significant enhancements. Below, we provide an overview of the primary addition and bug fixes included in this release.

Introduction of "No Vig Price" (NVP) :
In response to numerous requests, we have incorporated a highly anticipated feature called "No Vig Price" (NVP) in this update. NVP is displayed in the events table on our platform, revealing odds with Pinnacle's vigorish (margin) subtracted. This feature provides users with a clear view of the odds that all bettors should aim to surpass when placing bets elsewhere, offering valuable insights for more informed betting decisions.



Understanding Pinnacle's Vigorish:
Before delving into the NVP feature, it is essential to understand Pinnacle's vigorish, or margin, which represents the bookmaker's built-in advantage in the odds they offer. Pinnacle is renowned for its low vig, setting a benchmark for fair odds in the industry. Even though they have industry low vig you still need to remove it to get to a closer prediction of fair odds.

Calculation of NVP:
NVP is calculated by subtracting Pinnacle's vig from the displayed odds. The assumption is that the vig is evenly distributed across the market, and adjustments are made accordingly. We are aware that there are various ways one can calculate the distribution of vig across a market, for instance the proportional method so we do intend to add the ability to choose how the distribution of vig is calculated in the future.

Bug Fixes:

a. Fix for 'Spreads 0 Graph' in Sidekick :

Issue: Displaying the moneyline graph erroneously.
Fix: We have corrected this to ensure an accurate representation of the data.

b. Competition Filter Enhancement :

Issue: A minor bug affecting the competition filter, excluding all competitions if a trailing comma was left after the list.
Fix: We have addressed this issue, ensuring that the competition filter functions seamlessly without unintended exclusions.

Please let us know what you think we should be building next by sending us a message on our twitter where we keep followers updated on all things POD including any planned downtime: https://twitter.com/PODTerminal

If you would like to check out the new features you can sign up here:https://www.pinnacleoddsdropper.com/

Thanks you to all POD members for the continued support and thank you to the forum head for allowing us to continue to post updates on this forum.

Kind Regards,

Henry @ POD

Happy New Year, Arbusers Community!

Welcome to 2024! We're excited to kick off the year with Pinnacle Odds Dropper's latest update, version 0.72.

What's New in v0.72?

Limit Change Alerts:
A standout feature for our Gold Tier members. These real-time alerts notify you of changes in Pinnacle's betting limits for specific markets, providing a crucial edge in your betting decisions.



Period Filter:
Now available in the Silver Tier, this filter allows you to customize your dropping odds and limit change alerts based on specific match periods, such as the first half or full game, enabling more targeted betting.



Anticipating v0.74 (Opening Line Alerts):

Coming soon in our next update, v0.74, Gold Tier members can look forward to Opening Line Alerts, offering early insights into market trends.
Your input is invaluable in shaping our services. For feedback or feature suggestions, reach out to us on https://twitter.com/PODTerminal.

Sign up/Upgrade here: https://www.pinnacleoddsdropper.com

Thank you for your ongoing support and thank you to the owner of the forum for allowing us to post updates on here!

Hello Arbusers Community,

I'm excited to share our first major update of 2024 — Pinnacle Odds Dropper v0.74 is now live! We've been hard at work incorporating your feedback to enhance your betting experience.

What’s New in v0.74: Opening Line Alerts

Early Market Insights: With this update, we're bringing you Opening Line Alerts. This feature provides early notifications when Pinnacle, renowned for its sharp odds, opens a new market.
Strategic Advantage: These alerts are designed to give you a crucial head start in understanding market sentiment, helping you make more informed betting decisions.
Why Pinnacle's Opening Lines?



Your insights and suggestions have been instrumental in shaping Pinnacle Odds Dropper. Please continue to share your thoughts with us; your input is vital for our ongoing improvements.
Join us on Twitter to keep up to date with all things POD: https://twitter.com/PODTerminal

If you're new to Pinnacle Odds Dropper or considering an upgrade, now is a great time to explore our latest features. Visit us here: https://www.pinnacleoddsdropper.com

A big thank you to all our members for your continuous support, and to the Arbusers forum for allowing us to share our journey. Looking forward to another year of success with you all!

Hi,

how I can try test version POD?

Tom R. wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:47 pm

Hi,

how I can try test version POD?

We offer a 21-day money back guarantee so you can try out the service.

Just pop me an email (henry@pinnacleoddsdropper.com) at any point within the 21 days and I will refund you the full subscription amount. This money back guarantee applies to both the silver and gold tier.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Best,
Henry

Hey all, it's been a while since I've posted but I'm excited to share the latest update to our platform with the Arbusers community.
Version 0.929 has just been released, bringing the ability to choose from four different techniques when devigging Pinnacle's sharp betting lines:



Additive Method:
Divides vigorish equally across outcomes
Accounts for longshot overbetting, but can create negative probabilities

Multiplicative Method:
Spreads vigorish proportionally based on each outcome's probability
Simple calculation, but may not reflect real betting patterns

Power Method (New Default):
Raises probabilities to a power value to adjust for biases
Ensures devigged probabilities stay within 0-1 range
Our recommended and default approach

Shin Method:
Iterative algorithm to specifically correct favorite-longshot bias
Offers improved accuracy, same as Additive for 2-way markets

With the ability to configure the devigging approach right in the top toolbar, users can implement the method best-suited to their strategy and previous results.

The Power method is now the default selection. We advise most users start there, as it accounts for the tendency to overbet underdogs compared to favorites.

Proper devigging of Pinnacle's razor-sharp lines is KEY for revealing the true market pricing and finding +EV opportunities against the soft books.

Give these new options a try and let me know what you think the best method is! Excited to provide more tools for profiting off Pinnacle's efficient markets.

Thanks to the forum owner for allowing me to share platform updates here on Arbusers - much appreciated as always!

Sign up with our 21-day money back guarantee: https://www.pinnacleoddsdropper.com/sign-up

Henry Thomas wrote: ↑

Tue May 02, 2023 3:12 pm

Hi,
Thank you to the admin for allowing me to post this.
I am one of the co-developers behind POD, some of you may have already had some communication with me as i am aware that a portion of our current user are also members of this forum.

I'd like to start a thread in order to centralise user feedback. We are most interested about what you as the user want us to add/improve next on the platform and this seem like the ideal environment to gather these user insights.

The software does what it says on the tin, it alerts users to drops in Pinnacle's odds so that the user can take advantage of bookmakers who are slow to adjust their odds.
My co-founder and I found that traditional alert services (RebelBetting, BetBurger etc..) were doing a good job at providing +EV bets but they become completely obsolete once you were ,inevitably, limited on the bookmakers that they covered. We figured that we needed a tool that allowed you to find value bets on any bookmaker that was available in your country so that the value betting journey could continue and so POD was born.

The software is still in its infancy but we have every intention of continuing to work on it for years to come.

All members of this forum will receive a 7 day free trial.

https://www.pinnacleoddsdropper.com/

All feedback is welcome.

Kindest Regards,

Henry @ POD

I have a question about pinnacle odds dropper.
Nowadays on many small games pinnacle doesn't seem more correct then some softbooks. So how do you know what book holds the value? I think this tool could have some value probably on the bigger games, but otherwise on small markets you can move the line with like 20 dollar. LOL

What is your experience with this? Otherwise this tool could be interesting for me to value bet in offline shops

no one is gonna tell you what book holds the value if we talk about minor games because:

1. 20 euro bet can move the line = its totally unpredictable.
2. Loads of manipulations, any ways
3. Those who know arent dumb enough to share any crucial info these days to risk +EV niche is gonna dissapear in no time.

Conclusion - you need to figure out yourself.

Grant wrote: ↑

Sun May 26, 2024 9:51 pm

no one is gonna tell you what book holds the value if we talk about minor games because:

1. 20 euro bet can move the line = its totally unpredictable.
2. Loads of manipulations, any ways
3. Those who know arent dumb enough to share any crucial info these days to risk +EV niche is gonna dissapear in no time.

Conclusion - you need to figure out yourself.

I agree with what you said, makes lot of sense. But that's why i'm not sure if a tool like pinnacle odds dropper is even +EV anymore. The odds dropped now what? Could be just some manipulation. I rather take the market average across many bookmakers then just look at just pinnacle. Maybe it works for big games but then this is an important thing to know and understand. Could mean the difference between being profitable or a losing bettor.

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But that's why i'm not sure if a tool like pinnacle odds dropper is even +EV anymore. The odds dropped now what? Could be just some manipulation.
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Because it is some manipulation a lot. Times changing. When such tool was created pre-ko limits were a lot higher. Now, with 20-50 euro its most likely to manipulate markets which is happening. You will make a profit anyway if you are in a business for years but if you expect to blindly bet what such tools suggest you to bet - there is a chance you wont make a profit. Times when you could rely on odds droppers are gone Im afraid, you need to add a lot of experience to make a living.

Grant wrote: ↑

Wed May 29, 2024 5:03 am

But that's why i'm not sure if a tool like pinnacle odds dropper is even +EV anymore. The odds dropped now what? Could be just some manipulation.
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Because it is some manipulation a lot. Times changing. When such tool was created pre-ko limits were a lot higher. Now, with 20-50 euro its most likely to manipulate markets which is happening. You will make a profit anyway if you are in a business for years but if you expect to blindly bet what such tools suggest you to bet - there is a chance you wont make a profit. Times when you could rely on odds droppers are gone Im afraid, you need to add a lot of experience to make a living.
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Where do high rollers actually bet nowadays if limits are so low even on pinnacle?

Hello,

1) POD show Alerts only when changes ODDS in range what I set
or I can set Alerts for changes SPREADS/TOTALS (ex. spread 9.0->10.5)?

2) how I can see/where find what a numbers SPREADS/TOTALS was when market/line open? And how compare with current numbers?

Thank you!