Arbusers

kapetan1122 wrote:

dealer wins wrote: Nice to see this resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

There are ways to beat Pinnacle or at least manipulate their lines, and even the old Pinnacle would quickly lock accounts if they suspected that.

Example: Years ago before I understood that if the risk/win amount limit on a line was 100, and the odds 1.1 you could bet £1000 to win £100, I remember sending in £100 after £100 bet, only for the account to be locked for 3 weeks and they asking me for a detailed explanation of my betting intention.  After they finally realised I wasn't up to no good, they unlocked it.

Im guessing something like that has happened here, but they now want to refuse any more business from the OP, which is a little bit harder via agents hence Pinnacle made it very clear to PT they must not offer him an account.

Why is it hard to you to accept that someone can beat pinni in fair game?
This is second time you make assumptions that i did something shady or manipulate lines in any way, if this was the case PT and pinni will come out with proofs and i would not get my money.
Please check my bets that i put in attachment and see closing odds and you ll see that i just took closing odds( in meantime i never bet or tried to affect on odds before so i have advantage on closing odds) at pinnacle and beat them fair and squaire.

I will also tell you that pinnacle dont understand some basic things regarding tennis odds and what factors they should take, even bet365 get it after some time and fix some things but pinni still didnt do it, and thing is that i am not fighting pinni here, their opening lines are somethimes a such big joke,they made good model to make people and money coming in to shape their final odds but my models are based on few factors not only public opinions and money put on some matchs/lines.
People should understand that statistic is going to beat money in long term and that is it.

kapetan1122 wrote: I think i am done with pinnacle,PT was my last broker that i used( 4th one,end every ps3838 acc is suspended for betting) and my original pinni acc is limited for 2 years or more on prematch betting so this mean that pinni  dont want me to bet on lines where i can beat them but again they welcome me to lose money on live betting untill i maybe find something to beat them there and start winning and than i will be out for good,

leonbet wrote: A little off topic but in connection with the publication of kapetan1122.kapetan1122, you are considering taking a private account in Pinnacle.There are merchants around who offer such accounts.And every time Pinnacle stops your activity you get a new account.Most of us do just that with other so-called "soft" bookmakers.What, then, is the obstacle to doing this with the so-called "sharps"?Although the question of whether there are still "sharp" bookmakers is very controversial to date.

Wolfie wrote:

leonbet wrote: A little off topic but in connection with the publication of kapetan1122.kapetan1122, you are considering taking a private account in Pinnacle.There are merchants around who offer such accounts.And every time Pinnacle stops your activity you get a new account.Most of us do just that with other so-called "soft" bookmakers.What, then, is the obstacle to doing this with the so-called "sharps"?Although the question of whether there are still "sharp" bookmakers is very controversial to date.

It seems that pinnacle reaction to multiaccounting is more aggressive than softs. They are very good at profiling players so they catch you after a few bets. And their reaction is very slow payout to implant fear on playing there again like in kapetan1122 case.

supplier_of_happiness wrote: Hello. I wonder if you somehow solved the problem with tennis or stopped betting?