## Sharps and real price

Is this the new hack of smart gambling?
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### Sharps and real price

Why everyone thinks that pinnacle has the real and correct price? Ho deaclared that?

And can i use bet365 like sharp for lower leagues? I think if we compare unibet and 365, then bet365 is sharp... right?

And is there any calculator for odds?
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### Re: Sharps and real price

Narkis wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:14 pm
Why everyone thinks that pinnacle has the real and correct price? Ho declared that?
I am not one of them.
Narkis wrote: And can i use bet365 like sharp for lower leagues? I think if we compare unibet and 365, then bet365 is sharp... right?
The answer is yes, in some markets.
Narkis wrote: And is there any calculator for odds?
Describe the calculator you need.
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### Re: Sharps and real price

I mean example in tennis odds are 1.7 and 2.3 in soft, but pinnacle gives 1.6 to favorite. How to calculate % of value?

Which are sharp bookies at this moment? I see in forum that sbobet is soft, really?
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### Re: Sharps and real price

Hi Narkis, IMO Pinny is still sharp in almost all sports, especially in soccer. I recommended to you to read some things of Joseph Buchdahl about closing line and true value. He have in his page an Excel that you can download and see the "true odd" of an event.

In your example if Pinny have an odd of 1.60 to the fauvorite the underdog should pay something like 2.47 (with 3% juice included). With the spredsheet of Joseph you get that the "true odd" of this event is 1.639-2.565. This means if you have an odd of 1.70 in a soft book you should have a value of 3.72% in this bet.

Hope this help a little.

Cheers.
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### Re: Sharps and real price

Narkis wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:14 pm
Why everyone thinks that pinnacle has the real and correct price? Ho deaclared that?

And can i use bet365 like sharp for lower leagues? I think if we compare unibet and 365, then bet365 is sharp... right?

And is there any calculator for odds?
Hello, you are asking some very important and often overlooked questions. Whether a bookmaker is sharp in a sport is determined by the amount of financial flows it receives at a particular event. That's why Pinnacle is sharp, especially in football and American sports, as the colleague said, because Pinnacle accepts the largest financial volumes of these sports. For this reason, bet365 and some other bookmakers are sharp in certain leagues and sports.
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### Re: Sharps and real price

Following this, in tennis sharpest is betfair?
Who is sharper in nhl, nba, mlb - 365 or pinnacle?
There are often arbs live...