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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:13 pm

kapetan1122 wrote: Can we know some of them?
India is one more that was disabled today.
Are you sure about that?
The rest should be Bangladesh, Morocco, Vietnam, and a couple more.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:21 pm

kapetan1122 wrote:
arbusers wrote: I believe there are 7-8 countries globally that are allowed to use Skrill and Neteller as a first depositing method.
Can we know some of them?
India is one more that was disabled today.
Estonia is one of them if that helps. But most bet365 countries you can "buy" are disabled yes. India same.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:45 pm

Really bet365
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:25 am

Even if there are 7-8 countries where Bet365 accepts deposits from Skrill and Neteller, I doubt if this will be continued for more. The reason why Bet365 still accepts clients from Bangladesh is that the traffic they receive is good. There is no other explanation.
Bangladesh has a population of 165 million people, so the population size is the same as the UK, Germany, and Holland combined. Of course, they get mag action from Cricket players, but the locusts (what a phrase!) will be there. If Bangladesh closes, the locusts will move to the next country and the next and the next, until all countries are shut for Bet365 and PaySafe.
I know many of you guys will not like it, but what did you expect Bet365 to do? Stay there and allow locusts to shuck money?
At the same time, I m wondering what is PaySafe's position on that. I m sure they see, they know what is happening.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:45 am

campeones wrote:
I know many of you guys will not like it, but what did you expect Bet365 to do? Stay there and allow locusts to shuck money?
At the same time, I m wondering what is PaySafe's position on that. I m sure they see, they know what is happening.
Actually even there was more and more "locusts" last few years, Bet365 yearly profit goes up unstoppable.
So actually they can still handle some losses without such a drastic measures for sure. But off course they need to pay attention where money is leaking.
Basically only real option for deposits are credit cards (who the f*ck would bet transferring money from bank accounts, what with weekends, 0 eur deposits from bank accounts to bet365 due to banks not working ?...yea right).
And many people a) don't have credit cards, b) they have them but don't feel safe use them on internet, c) they use them, even on internet, but don't want to use them for betting so transactions are visible.

Although all financial parameters of Bet365 goes up year after year, I can't imagine situation where next Bet365 financial report in November 2020. will show rise in total deposits and finally the profits if those measures regarding Paysafe stays.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:37 am

Isn't it because
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:32 pm

And many people a) don't have credit cards
Nowadays there is such a variety of banks that they can be chosen for taste and color. Therefore, for bet365, such a radical decision plays into the hands!
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:30 pm

There is more in it then blocking by particular country.

I had Skrill removed in November, contacted bet365 support and they were continuously lying it was a decision affecting all Croatian accounts. Months later, I talked to people on forums, they confirmed either Skrill still being available on old accounts, either Skrill being unlocked after credit card deposit on new accounts. I tried depositing via credit card, didn't work (real bank card, not Revolut, Monese...) Finally their support admitted it was a decision affecting my account in particular. In the end, mugs even blocked me from their chat support, now I have to call them on the phone if I want to talk to them.
Btw, I did valuebet with them back in 2010. but played only poker lately. Can't even remember when I placed last bet with them, because I was limited long time ago. They still think I'm unprofitable customer for them, obviously.

So, all this scheme with blocking e-wallets for some countries is just a tool to attract soft action and get rid of sharps.

I contacted their poker provider Playtech, hope they can help me. Skrill obviously can't. It seems Bet365 got so big they can blackmail everyone involved.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:53 am

oambrazev1 wrote:
And many people a) don't have credit cards
Nowadays there is such a variety of banks that they can be chosen for taste and color. Therefore, for bet365, such a radical decision plays into the hands!
It's not the case for all countries, there are huge markets for bet365 where people basically don't use credit cards or they are restricted for depositing to bookies sites.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:02 pm

They block credit cards coming from banks which bonus abused them. With this strategy they block locust action and keep only losing players. Paysafe option i do not think will return anymore except in countries which they are having positive balance with paysafe.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:00 am

Most stupid decision by bet365 so far is to ban Paysafe. Even who bets "regularly" can not make deposit because in most countries authorities banned card transactions to online gambling sites, and all banks in that country implement the decision. So, Skrill and Neteller was only way to deposit.

So, most of new-registered "regular" bet365 users would be forced to choose another bookie for their 2€ bets, right?
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:52 am

sagosen wrote: Most stupid decision by bet365 so far is to ban Paysafe. Even who bets "regularly" can not make deposit because in most countries authorities banned card transactions to online gambling sites, and all banks in that country implement the decision. So, Skrill and Neteller was only way to deposit.

So, most of new-registered "regular" bet365 users would be forced to choose another bookie for their 2€ bets, right?
Totally agree with Sagosen. Still waiting for a positive move from Bet365 so that I have another way to deposit into my account. Hope they accept Bitcoin some day which is not likely to happen.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:00 pm

Are there maybe chances to Neteller and Skrill be back on bet365 after verification changes?
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:59 pm

that would be wonderful.

cause the verification hurdle is less higher then the 1. deposit hurdle.


also i hope that cause the corona crisis and the nearly total stop of sports betting for 2-3 months,

their shareholders will push them to let the reins loose when it comes to security questions. NT, ips etc.

lets spring back to august 2019. the world was wonderful. now its just a disaster. even without corona.
pls excuse my bad english
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:03 am

in which country can use neteller without deposit first with credit card??

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