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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:00 pm

Sportsbook is primary a data oriented business. So even if strategically is better if a Sportsbook accepts all types of deposit and withdrawal methods, it seems data analysis has shown they bleed too much from skrill and neteller sharp action. More money out, than money in, fairly simple.
With all types of verification process that skrill has presented it does not seem that verification is key to this problem. Locusts can pass any type of verification, if they want they can buy even bank account for each person.
So KEY to using skrill and neteller by locusts is the fact that they do not take part in CRS. Its not because easy verification, since we all here know that their verification process is not easy. All other conspiracy theories are unnecessary.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:05 pm

Camma23 wrote:
arbusers wrote: The 5-year contract think is a total bullsh.t.
you know it from official sources or is it just your thought?
Did you ask the same question that telegram channel?
I myself signed a number of contracts and I know there are safety valves to protect all parties when something is not profitable.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:09 pm

Shomoy99 wrote: locusts are shucking money?? 

Can you please explain me who the locusts are??  How They profit?? As far as I know, bookie makes profit, not users.

In every way, Bet365 still making huge profit from there .... And now other sites will be populler.
These are a group of players under the guidance of 2-3 bigger guys that kill the cow who feeds us all. These groups are attacking any possible source of profit in order to suck as more capital as they can in a very short time. As a result, many sources of profit are already dried up when they had excellent potential to feed a lot of people very generously for a longer time period.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Fri May 01, 2020 12:51 am

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campeones wrote:
I know many of you guys will not like it, but what did you expect Bet365 to do? Stay there and allow locusts to shuck money?
At the same time, I m wondering what is PaySafe's position on that. I m sure they see, they know what is happening.
Actually even there was more and more "locusts" last few years, Bet365 yearly profit goes up unstoppable.
So actually they can still handle some losses without such a drastic measures for sure. But off course they need to pay attention where money is leaking.
Basically only real option for deposits are credit cards (who the f*ck would bet transferring money from bank accounts, what with weekends, 0 eur deposits from bank accounts to bet365 due to banks not working ?...yea right).
And many people a) don't have credit cards, b) they have them but don't feel safe use them on internet, c) they use them, even on internet, but don't want to use them for betting so transactions are visible.

Although all financial parameters of Bet365 goes up year after year, I can't imagine situation where next Bet365 financial report in November 2020. will show rise in total deposits and finally the profits if those measures regarding Paysafe stays.
Also, many states does not allow card transactions to online bookies. And every try with debit card to deposit on bet365 is declined, when you call bank they give you explanation that authorities banned transactions to online bookies.

So, in my opinion, decision to remove Neteller and Skrill (these two were a way to bypass authorities restrictions to deposit money on online bookie), was so bad. Like they want to low-stake players go to other bookies for placing 2€ bets :)
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Fri May 01, 2020 8:04 am

arbusers wrote:
Shomoy99 wrote: locusts are shucking money?? 

Can you please explain me who the locusts are??  How They profit?? As far as I know, bookie makes profit, not users.

In every way, Bet365 still making huge profit from there .... And now other sites will be populler.
These are a group of players under the guidance of 2-3 bigger guys that kill the cow who feeds us all. These groups are attacking any possible source of profit in order to suck as more capital as they can in a very short time. As a result, many sources of profit are already dried up when they had excellent potential to feed a lot of people very generously for a longer time period.
Thanks a lot

Actually I am new in this territory. just for my curiosity, Can you please tell some details about "2-3 bigger guys." What they actually do that bleed a bookie so bad?


I think Blocking their source of profit is better way instate of Closing ewallets. if they Close Ewallet,  They will loose a huge customers . I think They can't even survive
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sun May 03, 2020 12:16 am

for new acc is any country to can deposit via neteller/skrill with or not before card deposit neccesary??
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Sun May 03, 2020 6:34 am

freenow wrote: for new acc is any country to can deposit via neteller/skrill with or not before card deposit neccesary??
I think that on a new account you won't be able to use skrill/neteller at all, not even after a card deposit.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Wed May 06, 2020 8:10 am

Blackoutt777 wrote:
freenow wrote: for new acc is any country to can deposit via neteller/skrill with or not before card deposit neccesary??
I think that on a new account you won't be able to use skrill/neteller at all, not even after a card deposit.
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Dont worry guys , bet365 soon gonna add ecopayz as deposit method and its almost same as neteller .
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Wed May 06, 2020 9:49 am

Juggernauts365 wrote:
Blackoutt777 wrote:
freenow wrote: for new acc is any country to can deposit via neteller/skrill with or not before card deposit neccesary??
I think that on a new account you won't be able to use skrill/neteller at all, not even after a card deposit.
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Dont worry guys , bet365 soon gonna add ecopayz as deposit method and its almost same as neteller .

Official news??  rumor i think....
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sun May 10, 2020 6:55 am

hello every one.. i am new here.. i just check bet365 did not allow me in my bet365 account deposite via neteller. as my account is new. i am from india.. i have just option via card deposite and astropay... as in india gambling is illigal no one from india able to deposite from his/her card. so its worthless for indian market.. deposite in gambling from india is not possible via bank.. same as withdraw cant possible i think. so how bet365 becomes so stupid like this they cant understand this simple things..
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sun May 10, 2020 11:26 am

sagar3791 wrote: hello every one.. i am new here.. i just check bet365 did not allow me in my bet365 account deposite via neteller. as my account is new. i am from india.. i have just option via card deposite and astropay... as in india gambling is illigal no one from india able to deposite from his/her card. so its worthless for indian market.. deposite in gambling from india is not possible via bank.. same as withdraw cant possible i think. so how bet365 becomes so stupid like this they cant understand this simple things..
Thats the reason neteller India was last to be killed. They tried to keep it, but it seems it became a good way for them to lose money.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Fri May 15, 2020 7:13 pm

Wolfie wrote:
sagar3791 wrote: hello every one.. i am new here.. i just check bet365 did not allow me in my bet365 account deposite via neteller. as my account is new. i am from india.. i have just option via card deposite and astropay... as in india gambling is illigal no one from india able to deposite from his/her card. so its worthless for indian market.. deposite in gambling from india is not possible via bank.. same as withdraw cant possible i think. so how bet365 becomes so stupid like this they cant understand this simple things..
Thats the reason neteller India was last to be killed. They tried to keep it, but it seems it became a good way for them to lose money.
No its just a matter of time ,neteller or skrill or ecopayz will definitely come back for indian customers .
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Sun May 17, 2020 11:16 am

Juggernauts365 wrote: No its just a matter of time ,neteller or skrill or ecopayz will definitely come back for indian customers .
How do you know that? Do you have any info  or analysis to support it?
Thank you.
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm

So basically, bet365 became the only bookmaker without an option of depositing via e-wallet?
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Re: Something is going on with Bet365 and Paysafe

Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:25 pm

Hard to believe that the biggest fish in the market doesn´t offer e-wallet-payments.

But that´s the status-quo

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