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Has anybody ever failed a proof of income check after complying with all requests?

In other words, is there a criteria that must be passed or are they always passed once wage slips are sent, even if lower than deposits?

Whether you pass these completely depends on the sportsbook and their reason for the SOW check.

These checks are always performed in the name of AML compliance. In reality sportsbooks will sometimes use them for different reasons and some are more thorough than others. What they're willing to accept depends on their standard procedures, the amount you are withdrawing and whether your account is in good standing. If they suspect they're being somehow exploited or that the account holder isn't the one controlling the account, they will be stricter. If they're badly managed, with a history of complaints or based in a jurisdiction where SOW checks aren't mandated, they might just be trying to find a way to delay payment or make it impossible for you to withdraw. For the most part though, if they're semi-reputable it'll probably be fine.

As abovementioned - like they would care about money laundering, sure... This crap source of wealth check is nothing than getting a way to delay payments or avoid paying customers, nothing else. Funny they wont ask about source of funds when you place a bet (and can lose it) but they will if you won already and attempt to withdraw. Pure theft nothing else.

AlexNotman1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:19 pm

As abovementioned - like they would care about money laundering, sure... This crap source of wealth check is nothing than getting a way to delay payments or avoid paying customers, nothing else. Funny they wont ask about source of funds when you place a bet (and can lose it) but they will if you won already and attempt to withdraw. Pure theft nothing else.

That post is one of the best warnings for talented rookies, aimin' to become pros in sports betting. They have to rethink their business in advance before the steadily collected daily profit increases in their accounts at various agencies. A hard task nowadays, indeed.

The SOW checks come under the umbrella of the casino or sportsbook's verification process. You can generally gauge pretty quickly whether or not these are being carried out in good faith based on the absurdity of the operator's requests. For example, if they ask you for notarised copies of your ID to withdraw a small win, probably best avoid that place.

As the previous poster mentioned, it is a hard task because there are many operators and you have to become familiar with their behaviour regarding payouts. There are 2 ways to do this:

1. Through third parties. This is the cheapest way since it's free. You get information either from personal contacts who have undergone verification at that sportsbook, or from scouring the internet for published complaints and disputes involving your target.

2. Through personal experience. You just play and learn through trial and error what kind of hoops you're going to be made to jump through for withdrawals. This can be expensive and time-consuming.

Despite the extra cost, I generally prefer the second approach. The information you receive will be optimised since it will be tailored to you rather than a third party. Casinos and sports books treat customers differently based on many variables. Let's say you prefer to rely on third party info:

You read a complaint in an online forum about an unfairly confiscated win from Bookie X. You may decide you will never be so foolish to play at Bookie X based on this complaint. But maybe the complainant unknowingly exhibited behaviour that resulted in the void and perhaps your profile wouldn't be tagged with any of these identifiers. Perhaps Bookie X didn't like that the complainant was using a VPN. Maybe Bookie X voids all 5+ figure wins but will process smaller wins with less scrutiny. Maybe Bookie X treats players from certain countries with much more suspicion than others. Maybe Bookie X really did identify the complainant as a multi-accounter but won't detail how in the complaint because it would be divulging it's counter measures to the public. Most importantly, maybe your profile would fly under the radar where the complainants did not. You only really know by trying yourself.

Here is an anecdote related to SOW checks that highlights the above. Some years ago my girlfriend played and won a decent amount at an online casino. This was done from South America, and at the time this casino did not have many members from the country we were in. So her play may have stood out because of the deposit and win size. The casino immediately instigated an unfriendly SOW check, demanding several screenshots not only of pay stubs, but also of bank statements. On top of this, if I remember correctly, she had to get her ID and proof of address notarised. She did this and they paid her, but not without their pound of flesh. They immediately banned the country my gf played from. Meanwhile, I had friends who were playing this same operator from Europe. They were never asked for SOW despite winning similar amounts (now the operator does ask for SOW routinely but back then they did not). If you had been from Europe and had asked for my gf's opinion on this casino before joining it, you would have thought that this place is not worth the hassle and have been passing up on a good opportunity.

@ Francisco,
Thanks for sharing that experience. There are some very useful accents in that info.

What do we think would happen if an account holder showed his source of wealth was from a third party, such as a partner of friend?

freaked wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:42 am

What do we think would happen if an account holder showed his source of wealth was from a third party, such as a partner of friend?

Try this and you wont be payed for sure Source of wealth suppose to be implemented to be sure your gambling money comes from trusted and well-known source, just guess if bookie is happy if you tell them you got money from "friend".

freaked wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:42 am

What do we think would happen if an account holder showed his source of wealth was from a third party, such as a partner of friend?

The friend part is always a red flag to them. They are in constant fear of organised groups collaborating against them, and transfers from "friends" are a sign of this. So this not only gives them an excuse to delay payment, but it may arouse further suspicion. Also, just in case, if they recognise your friend's name or other details as having an existing account with them then it will become very difficult.

For the SOW check, if you went the friend route, I assume you'd show them a statement for the deposit method you used showing the incoming transaction from your friend? There is a small probability this works, but unlikely. It really comes down to the reason behind the SOW check. Is it really compliance or are they just trying to screw you. If its UKGC licenced maybe they are asking this for compliance. If it's some Curacao based .io domain, they probably mean to stiff you even if you provide impeccable proofs. There's always exceptions and surprises though.