Arbusers

Hello arbers,

I have found this website and I am thrilled that some other guys are doing arbing. I hope we can together share our experience to win some money.

I consider myself a relatively advanced amateur in the field of arbing, however I would like advice from more experienced players which other bookmakers / agents are suitable for using arbing.

I am mainly concerned with security, as there is nothing worse than finding out that your account has been blocked with your money.

I am currently using:

Arb programs:
Surebet
Betburger

Bookmakers:
Sportmarket (mainly pin88)
Fortuna (Czech Republic - as soft bookie)
Tipsport (Czech Republic - as soft bookie)
Betfair
Sports market
Betano (limited)
Smarket
I used 22bet (limited)
GGbet (limited)

My question is what other bookies or agents would you recommend for arbing purposes. I wouldn't have a problem with the capital and I would like to grow and bet higher amounts, however, I am mainly concerned with security. I do not want to lose money by closed account.

I looked at 1bet, dafasport, Maxbet, piwi247, Sbobet, but I have no information about them. And I don't want to burn myself unnecessarily

I also don't understand whether it is appropriate to open individual accounts with agents and whether the rates on ps3838, pinn88, piwi are the same and more or less it doesn't matter on which agent (whether on sportmarkets, which I already use) or whether I will get other additional expanding options markets for use and increase bets.

I am willing to pay for a consultation if necessary.

Thanks a lot!

Hello Mufinek and welcome to the forum.
I hope it meets your expectations and you start a journey to remember from here.

At this point in time I believe you should answer to the following dilemma: Arbing, or Value Betting? Of course the answer depends on various factors but in my view the vast majority of our members are selecting the latest for at least the last 4-5 years, and they have valid reasons to do so.

For the alert services, you will have the complete picture once you try them all. Many members are using more than 1 alert service to implement their own custom made techniques. Most of smart bettors are using more than 1 alert services when we have big events like World Cups, Euros, etc.

Of course you know the Czech market better than anyone else, but I believe it would help you if you could provide the full list of bookmakers accepting Czechs. We could then divide the list to Go-No Go names and you take it from there. Is Czeck Republic a regulated market? Do you have access to bookmakers from abroad? Tax? Access to ewallets, these are some of the initial questions.

In regards to the agents, you can have a look at the forum, ask your questions, or even contact us directly for a discussion. In general you will be safe, provided that you follow the rules and you dont have dubious actions.

There is no need for any payment of course. All members are paying the forum by using or referral links, and that is more than enough.

Hello,

thank you in advance for the quick response.

For now, I would like to address quickly some of the questions you have for me.

Firstly, I would prefer arbing more than value betting since I do not actually know or believe (for now) that value betting actually work and there might be huge losing streak in my mind. I would prefer to have steady few percentage by huge turnover for now (maybe I am wrong?)

Regarding the Czech republic market - there has been law code for gaming that actually company need to have licence and tax in Czech to become official bookie in the Czech republic. Therefore there is literally almost zero competition in bookmakers - mostly Tipsport and Fortuna which I am using and now in the last year Betano obtained the market. There are also some of the lower bookies but they are not mentioned and scanned by the programs so actually you can not use them.

About taxation you should tax income (profit) when you have profit more than ~45K eur/year.

I have access to e-wallets and multiple accounts so this should be no issue.

I am mainly interested in the bookies abroad which are accepting Czech (I will try to do a list so you can tell me which are not good).

Regarding the agents I am little bit lost since from my point of view every agents is providing almost the same bookies am I wrong? So why does it matter to have more agents. Is for example pin88 different than ps3838 or piwi247?

Thanks in advance and I will try to do the list of bookies.

Muff

Muffinek wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:14 pm

Firstly, I would prefer arbing more than value betting since I do not actually know or believe (for now) that value betting actually work and there might be huge losing streak in my mind. I would prefer to have steady few percentage by huge turnover for now (maybe I am wrong?)

You need an idiosyncrasy sift to jump from arbing to value betting. Sooner or later, like every other smart bettor, you will have to switch. It comes with experience.

Muffinek wrote: Regarding the Czech republic market - there has been law code for gaming that actually company need to have licence and tax in Czech to become official bookie in the Czech republic. Therefore there is literally almost zero competition in bookmakers - mostly Tipsport and Fortuna which I am using and now in the last year Betano obtained the market. There are also some of the lower bookies but they are not mentioned and scanned by the programs so actually you can not use them.

So here is the treasure in front of your eyes that you fail to see. Let me take you by your hand.
When you have bookmakers not scanned by the mainstream alert services like BetBurger, Rebelbetting and the others, you have a treasure, because there is no competition among fellow barbers/value bettors who will attach to suck the last drop of profit. In these case, you should follow the tactic that I call ''alerts show the way''. When alert services are showing a rapid movement in odds in the bookmakers they cover, you should run as fast as you can to the bookmakers they do not cover. Probably you will be the first to take the good odds. Think about it.

Betano group, is a treasure. Wherever they go they offer excellent odds and mistakes in certain markets that a well trained smart bettor should exploit to the maximum extend.

The Czech environment doesn't seem toxic the way you describe it. There must be chances there.

Muffinek wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:14 pm

... I do not actually know or believe (for now) that value betting actually work and there might be huge losing streak in my mind.

Hey,

Before moving to value betting in real mode, I advise you to prepare well the concept of money management and risk management tool suitable for you. Later you should try your Mind and explore fictitious practice value-betting games "on paper" and meet your fear of losing streaks. The longer the losing streak occurred during the training sessions, the better the trading training for you before moving to the real mode one day. First, you will train your mind and mental resilience. Second, due to the fact that streaks are generally not that deeply mathematically explored (here I mean the more applicable practice tools beyond the probability calculations), you would create your own mathematical and statistical apparatus or something else. The next stage is deep testing and correcting the errors, before the careful and cautious start in real mode. Later backtesting to remove errors and so on. And don't forget to create the Stop Loss points. That way, losing streaks will never hurt you.

I wish you success!

Hello,

coming back from the holidays I would like to start to expand my portfolio.

I wanted to do some research about potential bookmakers to add to my portfolio. Unfortunately I do not know if there is any real website with true information about validity and safety of the bookmaker. The last thing I want is to win big and after that not be eligible to withdraw the funds. Can you recommend any of the website with bookmakers review since I believe most of them are paid of to have a good review (for example 1xbet) but in reality they scam the people.

So far I have found out that there would be possibility to use

Betonline
Sbobet
1bet
maybe Stake with VPN
Netbet
Sportsbet.io

Do you have any info about them?

Is there any way to use clones or similiar legit site of bet365 odds?

Thanks in advance!

Muffinek wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:26 pm

So far I have found out that there would be possibility to use
Betonline
Sbobet

BetOnline is pretty OK. Also, Sportsbetting (not mentioned in your list above) is their sister site, again OK. In short, both BOL and SBAG are among the classics.

SBO - one of the classical Minotaurs, providing excellent odds for Favorites. But I'm afraid they're pretty OK for some predefined circumstances only (spotted by your experience) and also in some niche markets.