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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:22 pm

That was my best month which covered the last football World Cup and Wimbledon Tennis.

I do shop arbing occasionally. They have self service terminals in all the UK bookie shops and you can bet as much as you like. For Euro 2016, the terminals had Northern Ireland stage of elimination, group stage at 4/11 which I arbed with Northern Ireland to qualify at 4/1 (betfred special offer).

When I started I just used to solely place arb bets. These days a lot of my work involves trading and market making on exchanges. I love arbitrage but the harsh, quick limits are a massive pain.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:42 pm

Bubbles wrote: I remember a prominent member of the old forum who used to say something along the lines of “it's perverse for an accomplished arber to start gambling” (trading being a smart form of it)
Times they are changin'...
Its a great decadence to become a gambler, when you 've been a great arber.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:43 pm

There are sharbing opportunities in countries that you believe they are ''finished''.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:24 pm

  Somebody on this thread said something today that got me thinking.

He said " ARBING IS DEAD!"

That pretty much closes the topic.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:44 pm

To bad Djomla is out;)
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:00 pm

Moonwalker wrote:
  Somebody on this thread said something today that got me thinking.

He said " ARBING IS DEAD!"

That pretty much closes the topic.
Is it "ARBING IS DEAD". Most asked question here is how much? Reading all this decide to write something. Are we lost with our monthly income? I'm happy with 5k per month? Of course you are who making more???  I'm for poor country Croatia and here in my country lot peoples work for 400 EUR per month. Before 4 years I quit job and decide just betting. My father told me your child will be hungry. And all my family say same. My starting capital was 1400 Eur and I had pregnant women and nothing else. I worked for about 800 eur per month. I was construction worker and my dream was to make 600 eur per month. I make that and my dreams become bigger and I was dreaming about 3k per month. I was thinking with that I can what ever I want. After few months I get that and I see I need more. I can't buy all I want so I dream about more. After few month I get more and more and more and more. And now I'm asking my self where is the end. when will I say I get what I wanted. That's enough. Answer is never. If don't go forward we go back. Maybe my betting is differently than classic arbing but when reading all this don't understand? You who are just at beginning do you understand some peoples here who understand all this they invest 10 hours per day 10-15 years in this. And you don't understand anything and ask can I. Of course you can't. And most of you never be able to do this. And reading this you can take this like extra income I must go to toilet after reading that. Don't think you can give 1-2 hours per day in betting maybe now if know something but with that after some time you will be begginer. This is full time or nothing. And on the end do you need 100k to make 20k per month. NO. But if you ask that you will not make 20k with 10 million.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:09 pm

antemartic wrote:
Moonwalker wrote:
  Somebody on this thread said something today that got me thinking.

He said " ARBING IS DEAD!"

That pretty much closes the topic.
Is it "ARBING IS DEAD". Most asked question here is how much? Reading all this decide to write something. Are we lost with our monthly income? I'm happy with 5k per month? Of course you are who making more???  I'm for poor country Croatia and here in my country lot peoples work for 400 EUR per month. Before 4 years I quit job and decide just betting. My father told me your child will be hungry. And all my family say same. My starting capital was 1400 Eur and I had pregnant women and nothing else. I worked for about 800 eur per month. I was construction worker and my dream was to make 600 eur per month. I make that and my dreams become bigger and I was dreaming about 3k per month. I was thinking with that I can what ever I want. After few months I get that and I see I need more. I can't buy all I want so I dream about more. After few month I get more and more and more and more. And now I'm asking my self where is the end. when will I say I get what I wanted. That's enough. Answer is never. If don't go forward we go back. Maybe my betting is differently than classic arbing but when reading all this don't understand? You who are just at beginning do you understand some peoples here who understand all this they invest 10 hours per day 10-15 years in this. And you don't understand anything and ask can I. Of course you can't. And most of you never be able to do this. And reading this you can take this like extra income I must go to toilet after reading that. Don't think you can give 1-2 hours per day in betting maybe now if know something but with that after some time you will be begginer. This is full time or nothing. And on the end do you need 100k to make 20k per month. NO. But if you ask that you will not make 20k with 10 million.
The real question is just one no matter what do you think something is it helping to achieve your goals. Did you make it? Is your child hungry? No then all good? Yes it didn't work for you. Simple things. Like it matters if you make 20k or 2k at 99% of the cases you will be just fine with both amounts.
Don't speak for something you have no clue.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:22 pm

There are no universal answers and targets.
It has to do with several factors:
Where you come from, Family status, Level of greed, Capabilities, Duration, Luck, etc.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:28 am

Moonwalker wrote:
  New term  SHARBING...

  Arbing and sharbing...  Remains me of movie called " Along came Polly" where  Phillip Seymour Hoffman character tells to  Ben Stiller character at the party  " I just sharted! "  "  I don't know what that means" says Ben

" It means  I farted and little shit came out"    (  pretty mental  but somewhat funny)  ;D
Hahahhaha... Australians have also Slang for this and slang is "Shat"...........
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:29 am

fairpunter wrote: Russia is one of the best countries for sharbing. there are many street betting shops which offers odds like marathonbet and odds change very slow than the pinny odds.if you can get 10% profit from online arbing you can easily get 20% profit from sharbing in Russia
If it's true, I don't mind moving to Russia for holidays and sharbing for few months :)
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:35 am

antemartic wrote:
Moonwalker wrote:
  Somebody on this thread said something today that got me thinking.

He said " ARBING IS DEAD!"

That pretty much closes the topic.

Is it "ARBING IS DEAD". Most asked question here is how much? Reading all this decide to write something. Are we lost with our monthly income? I'm happy with 5k per month? Of course you are who making more???  I'm for poor country Croatia and here in my country lot peoples work for 400 EUR per month. Before 4 years I quit job and decide just betting. My father told me your child will be hungry. And all my family say same. My starting capital was 1400 Eur and I had pregnant women and nothing else. I worked for about 800 eur per month. I was construction worker and my dream was to make 600 eur per month. I make that and my dreams become bigger and I was dreaming about 3k per month. I was thinking with that I can what ever I want. After few months I get that and I see I need more. I can't buy all I want so I dream about more. After few month I get more and more and more and more. And now I'm asking my self where is the end. when will I say I get what I wanted. That's enough. Answer is never. If don't go forward we go back. Maybe my betting is differently than classic arbing but when reading all this don't understand? You who are just at beginning do you understand some peoples here who understand all this they invest 10 hours per day 10-15 years in this. And you don't understand anything and ask can I. Of course you can't. And most of you never be able to do this. And reading this you can take this like extra income I must go to toilet after reading that. Don't think you can give 1-2 hours per day in betting maybe now if know something but with that after some time you will be begginer. This is full time or nothing. And on the end do you need 100k to make 20k per month. NO. But if you ask that you will not make 20k with 10 million.

Great insight mr. Martic . I too am from Europe, though I lived 10 years in Austin TX. I understand where you are coming from.  You gotta understand,  I did not say "ARBING IS DEAD" , I just quoted what was said on this thread.

So how did you achieve your goals really and how do you keep achieving them ?  Everybody here are saying that you cannot really use soft UK books anymore cause they ask for  10 different documents and then limit you to nothing after few bets. On the other hand, you cannot  really arb between the hard bookies.
Do you use arbing signals, do you do sharbing? What is the secret of your success?  To generate 5K you need to average 6 trades/day at 3%  with 1000 euros /trade...  Some say , you can hardly average 3% return anymore...it is less than that.  I assume it is not easy task to generate so many trades per day between the bookies that you have and without being limited. It is like navigating a submarine on underwater minefield... :)

I am sure that life is quite compfy  in Croatia with 5k euros/month and I am happy for  you.  Beautiful country Croatia.
I hope you will beat  Czech Republic today...  you should.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:43 am

Arbusers wrote:
Bubbles wrote: I remember a prominent member of the old forum who used to say something along the lines of “it's perverse for an accomplished arber to start gambling” (trading being a smart form of it)
Times they are changin'...
Its a great decadence to become a gambler, when you 've been a great arber.
Do you think it works the other way around?
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:55 am

Arbusers wrote: There are no universal answers and targets.
It has to do with several factors:
Where you come from, Family status, Level of greed, Capabilities, Duration, Luck, etc.

You really think it is about your family status, not  the material facts and limits  which todays arbing sets for you?
I am a person of numbers and logic , that's what I believe in.
To arb successfully you need some hard bookies and some soft ones...  That makes sense.
Now when most of the soft bookies are the UK books that wont let you expand or develop your business, you cannot really use them.  So what you do ? Invest more time, put in more effort?  Do sharbing?  If you are from the country with  lot's a street bookies... 

Would you use arbing signals?  They make sense cause if you try to monitor all the bookies by yourself, it might be exceedingly difficult. Now one leg of those signals would always land in some soft UK book that wont let you arb.
I do not know about others but RebelBetting  relays heavily on soft British bookies  which sort of decreases the value of their signal service IMO.  Maybe I am wrong....

I see clear limits  that are real coming from different directions.

Now let's say that you are super ambitious, with great experience in sportstrading, you understand the number , know the sports and know the bookies  + You believe that greed is good, greed cuts through and captures the essence of evolutionary spirit.  So you need to get pass those limits that industry sets cause you cannot avoid reality, you have do deal with it.  Some here say " hell , arbing is dead" . Some say " are you kidding, you need to build it up, invest 10 hours/day in it and have a great deal of experience! If you do, it is all still possible."

Where is the truth? Likely somewhere in between.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:17 am

jakopic wrote: Moonwalker do you have friends?
I do as a matter of fact!  I hope you do as well.

Explain yourself.
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Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ARBING

Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:14 am

Moonwalker wrote:
Arbusers wrote:
Bubbles wrote: I remember a prominent member of the old forum who used to say something along the lines of “it's perverse for an accomplished arber to start gambling” (trading being a smart form of it)
Times they are changin'...
Its a great decadence to become a gambler, when you 've been a great arber.
Do you think it works the other way around?
For me mostly is about what are you willing to sacrifice to succed in this business!
For example you say that uk books limit you fast and need dozen of docs... TRUE!
There are balcan countries that you can have a decent life with just 500 eur / month
At the same time they are full with street shops that don't have a clue about sports odds and how to change them quikly , also in these countries is very easy and cheap to make new friends
so are you willing to move  , live and work to this kind of countries for example ?

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