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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:48 am

hi, is it possible to show alongside the value bets the true odds of a match from a bookie i select in settings eg pinnacle?
this would be nice to add
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:50 am

esi wrote: hi, is it possible to show alongside the value bets the true odds of a match from a bookie i select in settings eg pinnacle?
this would be nice to add
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Unfortunately, we are not sure that we understand you correctly. Could you please rephrase your suggestion?
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:04 am

I believe he would like the true odds from Pinnacle (meaning those odds without the juice) displayed so he would know exactly what the value is at the glance of an eye.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:16 am

Alfa1234 wrote: I believe he would like the true odds from Pinnacle (meaning those odds without the juice) displayed so he would know exactly what the value is at the glance of an eye.
Unfortunately, we have no such an option for Valuebets section. In this case, he may use Surebets, but cover only one bet against Pinnacle.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:31 pm

Gave it another try as i see there were some changes since you opened it and i got to say, it's absolutely useless, the guy above me was right, you can't bet blindly like that without knowing and checking what you bet against. What if it's an error and you scan odds incorrectly and show valuebets based on that? we'll never know it.
I get it, if you show the opposite odds it's more or less like the arb service which is more expensive, but as it is, the value bet service is just a joke. Try again, and think of a way to do this properly.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:35 am

Today I took it to try your value betting service and I'm really not thrilled ... for example, at the moment, the match Chanson V-Magic vs. Mitsubishi Koala odds on hendicep +7 on bet365 is 1.83 while on pinnacle 1.56 ... your service does not show it while the specified match can be found on the free service surebet, as well as many others. In the settings I even set bookmaker for value betting calculation only pinnacle...I also chose all the markets and all the sports.
Also your service calculates overvalue in my opinion completely wrong way, comparing the odds with all bookmakers, instead of doing it only with Pinnacle. This in translation means that the BetBurger can be used for 1xbet which changes odds slowly, while for those who do it faster is not that good.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:21 am

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Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:35 am
Today I took it to try your value betting service and I'm really not thrilled ... for example, at the moment, the match Chanson V-Magic vs. Mitsubishi Koala odds on hendicep +7 on bet365 is 1.83 while on pinnacle 1.56 ... your service does not show it while the specified match can be found on the free service surebet, as well as many others. In the settings I even set bookmaker for value betting calculation only pinnacle...I also chose all the markets and all the sports.
Also your service calculates overvalue in my opinion completely wrong way, comparing the odds with all bookmakers, instead of doing it only with Pinnacle. This in translation means that the BetBurger can be used for 1xbet which changes odds slowly, while for those who do it faster is not that good.
Thanks for your feedback! In order to check out this or any similar situation, we’d need to have a relevant example. If you still experience any difficulties, please send us one to support@betburger.com

As for the calculation, please have a look at the article which explains the calculation of valuebets the way it works on our part: betburger.com/news/changes-to-valuebet-profitability-calculation
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:00 pm

I assumed that you were calculating Valuebet profitability this way ... but that's exactly what I said, if Pinnacle moves the odds from 2 to 1.70, for example, the betburger won't show it to us as a value bet, because other bookmakers haven't moved the odds yet ... after that, bet 365 first moved the odds in accordance with the pinnacle and then everyone else and we are left with a missed chance ... I hope you now understand me why this way is wrong ...
On the other hand, I noticed that as a value you show the situation when bet 365 first moves the odds (which often happens, they are also sharp in some situations), of course that value is quickly lost because even pinnacles move the odds in accordance with bet 365.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:14 pm

Luka wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:00 pm
I assumed that you were calculating Valuebet profitability this way ... but that's exactly what I said, if Pinnacle moves the odds from 2 to 1.70, for example, the betburger won't show it to us as a value bet, because other bookmakers haven't moved the odds yet ... after that, bet 365 first moved the odds in accordance with the pinnacle and then everyone else and we are left with a missed chance ... I hope you now understand me why this way is wrong ...
On the other hand, I noticed that as a value you show the situation when bet 365 first moves the odds (which often happens, they are also sharp in some situations), of course that value is quickly lost because even pinnacles move the odds in accordance with bet 365.
We are currently working on updating the valuebet calculation algorithms, and all the miscalculations will be taken into account. Thank you for your patience.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:25 am

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Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:16 am
Alfa1234 wrote: I believe he would like the true odds from Pinnacle (meaning those odds without the juice) displayed so he would know exactly what the value is at the glance of an eye.
Unfortunately, we have no such an option for Valuebets section. In this case, he may use Surebets, but cover only one bet against Pinnacle.
does this works? if i cover only the one bet aggainst Pinnacle at bet365 for example would i have profit??
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:26 pm

Makis wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:25 am
BetBurger wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:16 am
Alfa1234 wrote: I believe he would like the true odds from Pinnacle (meaning those odds without the juice) displayed so he would know exactly what the value is at the glance of an eye.
Unfortunately, we have no such an option for Valuebets section. In this case, he may use Surebets, but cover only one bet against Pinnacle.
does this works? if i cover only the one bet aggainst Pinnacle at bet365 for example would i have profit??
You can use AvgLine if you want to use odds without the juice. AvgLine works better than Pinnacle, so you can do arbs against Bet365 without a doubt. More information on the Avgline is here: https://www.betburger.com/news/overvalue-feature-added.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:57 pm

Thanks for your response,
So where can i find the Avgline? At surebet pricing or at valuebet pricing??
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:02 pm

Makis wrote:
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Thanks for your response,
So where can i find the Avgline? At surebet pricing or at valuebet pricing??
Avgline can be found both at the Surebet and Valuebet calculators. With the help of statistical data, our team reviews the top bookies that form the Avgline depending on the sport.
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:13 pm

i cant find avgline anywhere.. i can only see the odds of other bookies there
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Re: Value Bets – new functional from BetBurger!

Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:50 pm

Makis wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:13 pm
i cant find avgline anywhere.. i can only see the odds of other bookies there
Can you, please, share the email you use for the BetBurger account? We need it in order to check if it is the problem on our side or if there are some issues with the settings on your side. Alternatively, you can send an email to support@betburger.com if you are not comfortable sharing it here. Looking forward to hearing from you!

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