Arbusers

raizzak wrote: So much panic what the hell guys... every time something happens you all scared about your money..... so 5 books use the same license NO SHIT whitelabbel sportsbooks nothing new here nothing suspicious either... Do you have any stong indication that they are not going to pay? not rly.... because they didn't pay in one hour as they always do that not a serious sign... even 2-3 days isn't....

I agree, everytime a bonus abuser gets busted in a book there is a big panic going around

Thordin wrote:

raizzak wrote: So much panic what the hell guys... every time something happens you all scared about your money..... so 5 books use the same license NO SHIT whitelabbel sportsbooks nothing new here nothing suspicious either... Do you have any stong indication that they are not going to pay? not rly.... because they didn't pay in one hour as they always do that not a serious sign... even 2-3 days isn't....

I agree, everytime a bonus abuser gets busted in a book there is a big panic going around

are bonus abusers second class thordin? whether a bookmaker doesn't pay a bonus abuser or an arber means
exactly the same thing.

Gobetgo have arrived on the scene claiming they are a big player, telling arbers on here that we have best odds
and will take massive bets, history has taught us that such Bookmakers must be treated with extreme caution.

even if this story turns out to be unconnected to Gobetgo, they have already admitted to stealing funds of suspected
bonus abusers, arbers come on here and defend Gobetgo, why? because they are using them, they want to believe
that they have found a good new bookmaker and that their money is safe, whether they are safe or not remains to be seen
but just because they are just now means little, sirbobet and canbet are different examples of how things can be good
at first and after a period of time (when the money starts to run out) go badly wrong.

yes arbers defend Gobetgo but ask yourself why you are defending them!!!

1st) i don't use gobetgo so i don't have any fear for my money, but i don't use them for my own personal reasons not because i'm scared
2nd) Stealing money from bonus abusers im not even sure if you serious.... Bonus abuser is the thief not the book that catch them because the majority of abusers didn't develop a new approach and they think we are at 2007 and yes if you suck because you don't do your homework you deserve to lose money...
3nd) There is no book which are you 100% safe... If you think believe that you are 100% covered in this job you are just plain wrong ask the ppl who had fortunes at Goldbet (or smth like that) which was the Pinnacle back then.

I believe bonus hunting is a very risky job nowadays and the people that get busted, and books are getting a lot better at busting,  should not go to places complain ''Book'' stole their money. And some of the stories are ridiculous anyway, clear breach of bonus terms...
I have read around about using same street address, betting on opposed outcomes, are we serious?
Claims of a bonus hunter getting his winnings confiscated are not a sign for a bad reputation of a book for me.

That is my opinion and thats all i will say on the matter, everybody feel free to have theirs

the last 2 posts are examples of arbing snobbery, arbers and bonus hunters are doing similar things, that is
looking for free money, you can fool yourself all you like, bonus money can be nice and I've taken it many many times,
who hasn't?  we're all scoundrels to the bookmaker.

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Odinbet's business model is tricking people into depositing to earn a bonus and hoping they bet until they lose, arbing and hedging all bets on exchanges, they even encourage this via e-mails from Odinbet support. They have no intention of ever paying out any winnings.

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whether a bookmaker doesn't pay a bonus abuser or an arber means
exactly the same thing.

Nope. A bookmaker has every right not to pay a bonus abuser (if of course has solid proof that the client has abused bonus terms). On the contrary, a bookmaker has absolutely no right not to pay an arber for taking soft odds. There is no term or law to forbid that.

A confiscation is a bad sign, but doesn't always mean that the bookmaker isn't reliable. I know cases even of "AAA" bookmakers like bet365 confiscating funds because of (proven) bonus abuse.

keyword proven. and often they won't even tell you what this incriminating evidence is. and unless you take them to court (which court?), you will never find out.

I can't believe how dumb some of you are (especially Thordin). These crooks are 100% linked. Gobetgo and odinbet are 100% the same people. The odinbet skrill withdrawals (for the 1 person lucky enough to get one due to FBI threats) come from Gobetgo holdings for crying out loud!

Also where does bonus abusing come into it? The guy on the facebook forum accepted an offered bonus from odinbet, spent 200 hrs turning it over correctly on accepted markets and then once completed requested his withdrawal.

Irrespective of this the issue with bonus abuse is that bookies pick and choose and pretty much do whatever they like. Duplicate accounts, multiple people at the same address, this is bonus abuse. Most other things that bookies accuse of being bonus abuse, such as that heinous crime of using a bonus on weak lines isn't really bonus abuse at all and it's just the books doing as they please.

I had to delete part of Kettlebob's previous post because it revealed personal data.
Thank you.

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vegas1000 wrote: STAY AWAY FROM THOSE SCAMMERS!!!! my money is gone!!!

Did you contact them via Skype as they asked you to on the previous page?
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doubledavis wrote: I can't believe how dumb some of you are (especially Thordin). These crooks are 100% linked. Gobetgo and odinbet are 100% the same people. The odinbet skrill withdrawals (for the 1 person lucky enough to get one due to FBI threats) come from Gobetgo holdings for crying out loud!

Also where does bonus abusing come into it? The guy on the facebook forum accepted an offered bonus from odinbet, spent 200 hrs turning it over correctly on accepted markets and then once completed requested his withdrawal.

Irrespective of this the issue with bonus abuse is that bookies pick and choose and pretty much do whatever they like. Duplicate accounts, multiple people at the same address, this is bonus abuse. Most other things that bookies accuse of being bonus abuse, such as that heinous crime of using a bonus on weak lines isn't really bonus abuse at all and it's just the books doing as they please.

nicely put Doubledavis, it seems on arbusers that some experienced and successful arbers get too arrogant,
and fool themselves that they are somehow making money a noble way by arbing as opposed to bonus hunters,
who basically are pure scammers, sportoboy's comments and Thordin before him are laughable, they are a
good example of what I mean, we arbers do what we have to do just like a bonus hunter, if you are making bets
as someone else, if you are making bank transactions and ewallet transactions as someone else then how many
t & c's are being broken? how many rules are being broken? we are no better than a bonus hunter, go on arrogant
arbers continue to live in "cloud cuckoo land".

any funds confiscation from a bonus hunter has my total sympathy bonus hunters and arbers are in this together,
we have a common goal to make money from the nasty, thieving, greedy bookmakers, there is no such thing as a nice bookmaker, every single one of them has the exact same goal and that is to make as much money as they can, if that
leaves people penniless, broke, destitute then I can assure you they don't care a jot about this, some wealthy arbers
forget how and where they started and need a reality check.