Arbusers

One thing that i want to put into discussion here is this fact;

Lots of people here, can contribute in the forum with their own betting knowledge and perspectives.
But, no one here has knowledge about stocks investment.

So, in my opinion, if the forum, will evolve in that way, more people should contribute with their knowledge too. But the problem is that no one here knows shit. Or at least me. So, maybe we should start the stocks investment with a thread like this: "Newbies", exactly like, i suposse that the betting part started. And maybe with time, more people can contribute with their own analysis.

Another thing, about the DNA, purism is not a good thing in life, and specially in business. Life evolves, business evolves, and people evolves too. Maintain the absolutely essences of something when everything around is changing is something not intelligent. And in general terms, i have to say that Arbusers forum maintain an "old school format" in many ways, and specially in the way of think.

DPG wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:11 pm

Just to add, I think everyone should be involved in the stock market as it is the best way to preserve and grow your wealth over the long term. In this high inflation environment we have had hard earned money sat doing nothing is losing it's value.

History shows that you are correct. But...
There is a growing narrative pumped by the recent inflation wave, saying that the stock market will protect you from inflation and the debasement of currency. Even though this is generally correct, there are times that will keep you totally boxed in for many years before your portfolio becomes green again. For example, if you started this strategy in 2000, you would need some 14 years before being green inflation adjusted.

Thus, investing in the stock markets is one side of the story. The other side of the story is ''investing in the stock markets properly''.

apoel81 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:36 pm

A good idea is to have a paid section for stock/bitcoin analyses, everyone will be happy that way.

Those who are not interested wouldn't bother and those who are thankful wouldn't mind pay some euros per month. Pretty sure many have earned more from arbusers investments than arbing/value betting etc.

This community has abuse in its vain. No question about it.
Let me explain why a well known alert service is forced to raise prices every now and then. It is because many people subscribe, take the service for some weeks, and then request for a reimbursement according to the EU law. Then they repeat the whole process again and again.
Meanwhile, the alert service pays approximately 15% to payment providers, visa, MasterCard, etc. On top of that it pays a manager who is handling these payments. How would you expect business to flourish like that?
Because of the bad record of the community, I am very reluctant to start anything like this. People would get a subscription for 1 month, get the service and then request a reimbursement leaving me with a debt in Visa and MasterCard.
On top of that, any payment from you guys would create a moral obligation for me to be responsive even when the question is not worth answering.

cortomaltese wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:22 am

the creation of a sister site by the name of Crusers.com ?
"Cr" in crusers is for crypto obviously ... i just drop an idea
Thanks

Ha... don't tell me it is you...


I recall some years ago when the Greek government decided to shut the national TV channels. The spokesman of the time, announced the name of the new channel that would work with far less personnel. Guess what, one of us went to buy the www from godaddy even before the state would buy it. What a comedy.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:54 pm

cortomaltese wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:22 am

the creation of a sister site by the name of Crusers.com ?
"Cr" in crusers is for crypto obviously ... i just drop an idea
Thanks

Ha... don't tell me it is you...


Crusers.png


I recall some years ago when the Greek government decided to shut the national TV channels. The spokesman of the time, announced the name of the new channel that would work with far less personnel. Guess what, one of us went to buy the www from godaddy even before the state would buy it. What a comedy.

Ha Ha! interesting!
Never crossed my mind to buy a domain to resell it i ensure you!
You can always made it crusers.io or smth
By the way i also recall give a thought to buy Ethereum Name Service domains and back then didn't valuate properly the opportunity
Now these domains can have unbelievable prices...
or i never liked the idea to use precious funds just to buy ownership to a bunch of pixels..
Still some NFT's are ridiculously priced today!!

CharlieSheen99 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:37 am

i have to say that Arbusers forum maintain an "old school format" in many ways, and specially in the way of think.

Could you please elaborate some more here? We might get better!

arbusers wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:12 pm

CharlieSheen99 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:37 am

i have to say that Arbusers forum maintain an "old school format" in many ways, and specially in the way of think.

Could you please elaborate some more here? We might get better!

In this times, everyone write and think too fast. But here, people take their time to write every post. Think first, and write after thinking.
Don't take it as a criticism, it's exactly the contrary. And i like more the forum, because of that.

Take whatever post of anyone here, you won't read bullshit.

I don't know how to define Arbusers forum. But for sure, it's different.

But, as i wrote in my previous post. Having this DNA, shouldn't be an impediment to advance, and touch other fields. All of us are bettors, but we can learn other skills.

cortomaltese wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:44 pm

Ha Ha! interesting!
Never crossed my mind to buy a domain to resell it i ensure you!
You can always made it crusers.io or smth
By the way i also recall give a thought to buy Ethereum Name Service domains and back then didn't valuate properly the opportunity
Now these domains can have unbelievable prices...
or i never liked the idea to use precious funds just to buy ownership to a bunch of pixels..
Still some NFT's are ridiculously priced today!!

We just bought a www domain, not the one you suggested, for potential future use.

Let's suppose, for the shake of the argument, that we start a new website that will be dedicated only to investing. In this case, arbusers forum will return back to its core focus which is of course gambling.
What would you like to see in the new website? How would you imagine it? What features would you like to see?
Thank you for any input.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:44 pm

Let's suppose, for the shake of the argument, that we start a new website that will be dedicated only to investing. In this case, arbusers forum will return back to its core focus which is of course gambling.
What would you like to see in the new website? How would you imagine it? What features would you like to see?
Thank you for any input.

I want to see Arbusers2.0.com.

We all learnt in Arbusers how to bet. We want the same in Arbusers2.0.

There is just one goal: Profit to its members.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:44 pm

Let's suppose, for the shake of the argument, that we start a new website that will be dedicated only to investing. In this case, arbusers forum will return back to its core focus which is of course gambling.
What would you like to see in the new website? How would you imagine it? What features would you like to see?
Thank you for any input.

I want to learn how to do TA like you do, I know thats not an easy task but why not?
All the way from newbie stuff/where to start to the more advance.

Lumberjack wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:16 pm

arbusers wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:44 pm

Let's suppose, for the shake of the argument, that we start a new website that will be dedicated only to investing. In this case, arbusers forum will return back to its core focus which is of course gambling.
What would you like to see in the new website? How would you imagine it? What features would you like to see?
Thank you for any input.

I want to learn how to do TA like you do, I know thats not an easy task but why not?
All the way from newbie stuff/where to start to the more advance.

Agree.

Some topics about TA tutorials, some topics about useful TA tools, scanners, indicators etc, some stock/crypto analyses etc.

For newbies like us, even if we understand the basics of TA, we got no idea where to start. How you set your criteria for each stock? Are those criteria always the same? Then, how you search for stocks that fit our criteria? You use a scanner or you do it manually? Seriously speaking, i have dozens of questions

Hopefully crypto/stock markets can't be influenced by anyone so i suppose there is room for anyone to contribute his knowledge as well.

Tried a lot my self in the past to find some good stock/crypto analyst to follow but there was always something missing and never got confident to follow them with real money. On the contrary, i blindly follow your analyses when i can. I find your analyses very easy to understand, your charts are always very clean etc. Looks like you have a charisma in my eyes.

A moderated paid section for analyses would be nice as well. Not only for your analyses but also for other member analyses. I wouldn't like a kindergarder paid section whereas anyone could post random analyses only to get paid. Would prefer a moderated section whereas any analysis would have your approval before posted etc.

The forum as it is, with mixed subjects, does not bother me.

What makes the forum most valuable is not it's structure, it is it's users. Over the years I have come to respect the opinions of a handfull of them based on previous debates and information sharing.

With regards to the subjects on this site, I currently spend far most of my time on sport betting, a little on reading books and very little on investments. Generous analyses and comments on other subjects such as crypto and stocks from respected users is something I gladly stumble upon and I mostly react to it as a financial advice, although especially Arbuser disclaims it is not intended to be (the reason for acting like a sheep in this case, is the realization of not having the time nor knowledge to do proper research. In such case, reacting based on arguments in analyses and dicussions between intelligent members is a much more logical choice, at least for now).

arbusers.com is a powerful ressource, and having the possibility to launch ideas for debate or ask questions related to betting has been, and hopefully will still be, invaluable because of the quality that it's members possesses. So if arbusers.com shrinks, by displacing hot topics (crypto and stocks) elsewhere, I think some of the respected knowledgeable users who do currently not practice smart betting will disappear from betting-related posts as they will not see the posts and thus not be tempted to share knowledge from their prior occupation/passion. For them it may also be a loss, as they may miss out on new smart betting opportunities and ideas (even though this may seem like a rarity at this moment).

One of my favorite threads on this site "Books to read" is an example of content that may not directly be related to investments nor betting, but which still appeals to the interests of the smart bettor (whose average personality and preferences should be different from a random audience). Creating bookusers.com just wouldn't make sense. Just finished reading "Mastering the market cycle" by Howard Marks today. Although the book mentions nothing about sports betting, I cannot avoid thinking if smart betting as a concept also has a cyclical behaviour. Smart betting has been around long before any of us were born. That is the beauty of books, they set thoughts in motion.

I would like to thank you all for your contribution in this thread. I really appreciate it as it is obvious we are not talking BS here. I have some comments here based on what you guys said.

I bought my first stock in 1998 and I now recognise I was a clueless newbie. Since then I followed a path of wide awareness and not strict specialisation. This wide awareness was then circling around investment processes and it was enriched by my luck and my tenacity to meet some people who were far ahead others.
Thus, it was a learning process that can't be taught in a traditional way. I can't simply suggest 5-6 books and tell you this is where the knowledge is. Because this will not be enough. I can't write a text about T.A and tell you go read it. Because this will not be enough. It is a general mindset that can't be taught with reading. In the end, the feeling of buying a stock, (or a cryptocurrency) can't be replicated by simply reading books.
Maybe a webinar would be more appropriate, but again, how much time will be needed to say all the things I should say? I mean, I must be OK with my conscience that I delivered something worthy to you guys.

I 've thought about the cyclical nature of gambling. I was reading a book about Fermat's last theorem. It was enriched with stories from the 17th century, when smart gamblers were travelling around and they were milking the pure (and poor) gamblers of Europe. Some of these early smart bettors became nobleman and extremely wealthy people of the time. By that time it was so unbelievable easy to become a tycoon, simply because you were good at maths among ignorant people. Gambling never stops surprising me.

One question here, Arbusers;

There are thousands of stocks.
How do you do to select them?

Because we are all thinking about doing, TA, Elliot Waves, and read the fundamentals correctly, but, you need to spend hours making this job, and you cannot analyze all the stocks, so at first you need to aim the shot.

I mean..., to say something, just 1 out of 100 will have a big movement upwards. (i don't know..., just speculating).

So, the question here is; how do you do to find the correct stock, without investing tons of work finding it.
Why did you decide to analyze Solana, Pfizer, Shell, instead of others?

Because here, you don't have an alert service telling you where do you have to look.

I hope that there should be some indicators, easy to look, that tell you: "man, here there are some weird things", before to dive in the pool.

Thank you.