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I still have money there, i'm naturally a little more scared compared to a standard period but what if they
don't do their best to pay customers? If crisis lasts for some weeks only (as we all hope) they had lost reliability for the near future when sport will begin again. Personally I'm trying to withdrawal only money I don't need to keep there, leaving, let's say, about half them.

risilloch wrote:

Blackoutt777 wrote: I hope you are not saying that leaving the money in is a risk...

Agent's could have a windfall here if some clients die of the virus and their funds consequently never reclaimed because their next of kin know nothing about the account.

Everyone doing this with serious capital should have measures in place to avoid this, like a PW protected file with all account info and contact details for bookies and accounts somewhere.  In case of death it should be mentioned in your will.  You could die in a car accident tomorrow, provide for your family in case the worst happens, you now have time to take care of things like this with no games going on anyway.

A very positive feedback to Betinasia: very fast in Skrill payout, about one hour from Black.
As regards PT they need several days because of the method (bank transfer).
Third agent is AC, I'm going to withdrawal something from Orbit this afternoon, I'm sure there won't be
any problem.

alealeale wrote: A very positive feedback to Betinasia: very fast in Skrill payout, about one hour from Black.
As regards PT they need several days because of the method (bank transfer).
Third agent is AC, I'm going to withdrawal something from Orbit this afternoon, I'm sure there won't be
any problem.

Unfortunately my funds are stuck in agent due to rollover requirements - which will be longer now as there is nothing to bet on 

alealeale wrote: A very positive feedback to Betinasia: very fast in Skrill payout, about one hour from Black.
As regards PT they need several days because of the method (bank transfer).
Third agent is AC, I'm going to withdrawal something from Orbit this afternoon, I'm sure there won't be
any problem.

I've already requested a withdrawal this month, right before the situation escalated, and because I am super stingy I thought of not requesting another one to don't lose money on fees (especially fees to deposit back the money).
I am placing very few bets, 3 today and that would be it.
I am going to wait at least two more weeks and see how it goes. We probably need a miracle but maybe will be possible to see more matches been played from the first weekend of April (at least without fans).

The fatality rate is now 8%.
Mark my words, this is not only about the elderly.

Where do you get 8% from? I haven't seen such a figure quoted anywhere.

This is not right.

The number of cases is much higher than governments says.

I personally know right now 5 people with symptoms, and all of them are not in the stats.

The sanitary services are literally collapsed.

UK prime minister said that in UK the cases were between 10k-20k, but they didn't registered all of them.

So, the mortality rate is less than 4%

We can have maybe 100.000 people infected in Spain, even if the stats said just 8000 at the momment.

And we have to make the calculations like this.

Of course every country is different.

For example South Korea, i think that have more controlled the number of real cases.

The majority of the infected people don't have too many symptoms, and can be at their houses, just with paracetamol and soups. And they will not make any COVID-19 proof.

The people that counts in the stats are the people that have a lot of symptoms, or becomes very sick, so they have more probability of dead.

So every stats that gives us a mortality rate of 8%, or 4%, are not real at all.

At least in Spain.
But other countries happened the same.

I think a 6 month period of almost zero betting is gonna be happening for me.  As an old timer it will be nice to have a long break from constant screen-staring, but I would have prefered a break where I could go and travel the world rather than possibly not even being allowed out of my house!

Financially it wont affect me, but I really worry about the people who cant get to work because of this and  dont have much of a safety net.  Lets hope they get it under control soon!!

german bundesliga has declared that all games are postponed until 02.04.

after this date they plan only games without fans.

tomorow the uefa will discuss the postponing of the EM.

Breaking news. Euro 2020 is postponed for 2021.

This could be good news, it allows more time for the national leagues to finish and rechedule games in a normal way.

Eurovision 2020 also canceled.

It seems to me that all Western countries are expecting even more outbreaks and they will not be counting cases one by one. They will move on to another rationale, which will announce only the serious outbreaks, which will give a blurred picture of the epidemic in these countries, but a very accurate picture of those in need of hospitalization as well as their outcome. This will gradually become the policy of all countries.
People should not be relaxed by that.