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This is silly from their side. How about FCA?

hi, i'm new..
i've more than 500€ in gbg account..
waiting to withdrawal to 100...

Thordin wrote: Surely some small fish from around the world will give them some more money but probably not much.
They are gone from oddsportal too as i see.

2-3k average from 150-200 active users is from 300k to 600k. Plus the jackpot with MrRed and some bigger confiscations here and there, this could reach the 1m... 

MrRed wrote: I did . Im a Diamant VIP at Skrill (highest level), they told me only, they can do nothing, because they are only responsibility for transferring the money. So their job is, that the money has been sent correctly from A to B. If there is a fraudster...well not their problem. So dont know how it is with neteller...but i think its the same.

My experience so far with e-wallets is that they treat merchants as kings and players as fraudsters. I believe that's because they get their payments directly from merchants, but the source that generates those payments is players money. Too shortsighted to see this? Maybe.

It's reported that they reversed payments from merchants to players under the excuse that they were done in error. But now they simply don't care?

Contacted FCA now.
I think they have much more...if you look all around the forums,where i posted this...from me 125k. some other guy 36k another 16k like 50-100 with 2-5k. So only those are around 500k with no problems....and this is only a part of it. I think 70% or more do not even complain and thinking its their fault,because gbg is good at manipulating people and also skrill fall for them. I contacted skrill again before some days....no answer....its always bad for a company if the customer in the end is right...so they dont want to lose theire face i think.

Glad my balance is pretty low (EUR 127,30).
Nevertheless it's a shame it looks like we can't do anything...

What Skrill could have here is to to block deposits to GB (I think they did that in the Full Tilt case) or even freeze GB's account (that would mean no more outgoing payments). Reversing payments would be complicated. How do you how much a player has won/lost? There probably isn't enough money in GB accounts to return deposits so how do you distribute the funds. I don't think they have the authority to do that anyway.
I doubt banks would return deposits even if you are the victim of gambling fraud... but at least they wouldn't share information about their clients as easily as e-wallets.

I think they have much more...if you look all around the forums,where i posted this...from me 125k. some other guy 36k another 16k like 50-100 with 2-5k. So only those are around 500k with no problems....and this is only a part of it. I think 70% or more do not even complain and thinking its their fault,because gbg is good at manipulating people and also skrill fall for them. I contacted skrill again before some days....no answer....its always bad for a company if the customer in the end is right...so they dont want to lose theire face i think.

That would be true if the still have the money. Maybe they don't.

I have there 17k+

I have also contacted my affiliate, which contacted Neteller and Skrill on that case, he responded to me that they will take a look on that case and update me on that issue.

I will contact FCA as well as MrRed did, additionally I will write an official mail to Curacao.

MrRed wrote: I did . Im a Diamant VIP at Skrill (highest level), they told me only, they can do nothing, because they are only responsibility for transferring the money. So their job is, that the money has been sent correctly from A to B. If there is a fraudster...well not their problem. So dont know how it is with neteller...but i think its the same.

They can do a lot, they can freeze their account, they can give back deposits, they can even help with FCA going forward.

If money is still within the e-wallets system then a lot of things could be done. I agree that e-wallets see bookmakers as their clients and players as garbage. Skrill is more hardcore than NT with this.

The GBG adventure has any similarities with the Pointbet fiasco some years ago. I m sure that the old timers are remembering this. Pointbet was offering pinnacle style odds, while at certain markets you could find soft books odds in underdogs. It managed to attract a number of players, some of them real pros, many of them from the arming community. Some people made the mistake to replace Pinnaclesports with Pointbet. I remember exchanging pjs with some other players and we were all saying that it was a matter of time until the bomb explodes. Finally, it exploded. Many lost a lot of money. No chance to get the money back.
On the other hand, I see many differences with the Wauwbet fiasco. That was a company from Denmark. Their managers made several mistakes and in the end they weren't able to pay. All assets of the company were liquidated and players got back 66% of their balances. I believe GBG has no assets at it's disposal.
In both situations, Pointbet and Wau, there was no affiliate intervention or abuse. Here the situation is even worse.

There are also similarities with sportsalive's case. I was also affected there. Just consider that three years after Sportsalive's collapse and within thoughts of a class action against them, we have not received even a penny. And Sportsalive was an Australian bookie, a country which is undoubtly the most well regulated on planet earth. In GOBETGO's case lets face it straight, we wont gonna get even a single penny back, their manager has completely disappeared while Sportsalive kept on communicating with players and welcomed liquidators. Apparently GOBETGO was nothing more than two persons, George and Alex and with limited financial capacity. Do not expect anything from them, they have exchanged everything with BITcoins, probably this was the reason that they insisted so much on that payment method, because they had organized everything from the outset and the only way to get away with players funds was to keep them in the form of Bitcoins.

There is no longer deposit option, but there are withdrawal options. I understand if this is contrary, but actually this is not.

What do you think this means ?

One thing I don´t understand. If they were to rob people, why they had so poor "winter bonus"? I would at least tried to steal much more in their position?  And yes, now they don´t even take more money from people... Miserable criminals!

Logically, their e-wallets are blocked, and they cannot offer deposits without active license.